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Thanks Blake, very informative and scary. I've just read these quickly =20=
and second your recommendation: anyone interested in vast =20
disinformation campaigns funded by threatened commercial interests =20
should read at least the first of these excerpts, then the last.
As far as I've been able to make out, none of the folks on this list so =20=
far including me actually works close to this area either in academia, =20=
industry or government, so Bruce Stevens' authorative commentary was an =20=
eye-opener (someone in a closely related field -- presumably without =20
any conflicting interest re. the Monbiot commentaries just mentioned). =20=
I'd largely agree with points 1-4 (with some reservations about =20
reviewers), but 5-7 are more interesting in what's not being said as a =20=
corollary. Point 5 indicates that the multiproxy approach to this =20
problem by now has been almost completely discredited. In the language =20=
of any scientific field this means that one now has to completely =20
discount the so-called hockey stick claimed result -- back to square =20
one.
Bruce, in your opinion, does this mean that there is now NO useful =20
current model that predicts recent climate change with any significant =20=
reliability? Or did you mean that this is an inferior model compared =20
with others that do it better? As a corollary, is it then the case =20
that the claimed excess in the upturn in average global temperature =20
(near the end of the hockey stick) simply cannot yet be associated with =20=
any certainty at all with anthrogenic activity (as opposed to the =20
complicated past history of the system, plus global/astronomical cycles =20=
that Dave Webster was referring to originally)? I hope I'm not =20
misinterpreting, but this last conclusion ("significant excess warming =20=
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