[NatureNS] Re: further re Toad Hawk?

Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:55:38 -0300
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To my knowledge the Red-tailed Hawk was known as the &quot;Hen Hawk&quot;
although&nbsp; personally I have never seen a Red-tail take a hen!<br>
Angus<br>
At 08:03 PM 9/19/2010, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi Jim:<br><br>
Very interesting about the Black Garter Snake. I knew that NS has, what,
4 species of Garter snakes and that one was black however I did not know
that it only is present on George's Island.&nbsp; The Micmac
Grammar&nbsp; gives a fairly comprehensive list of &quot;fowl and
fin&quot; and was written by Rev. S.T. Rand who had a mission in
Hantsport.&nbsp; What I am trying to do is to find the old Micmac name of
birds, convert it to the contemporary spelling (Francis/Smith
Orthography) and then use it in my bird list.&nbsp; My sisters are
Mi'kmaq Immersion teachers and have been using my pictures along with the
names to teach the children about the birds.&nbsp; Thus, I want to be as
accurate as possible.&nbsp; However, some of the older names for the
&quot;Fowl&quot; have long falling into disuse and it is a challenge to
find out what the bird is. Indeed the English names do have a habit of
changing every once in a while too.<br><br>
So far, we have Red-shouldered Hawk, Northern Harrier and the
Broad-winged Hawk as being the &quot;Toad Hawk.&quot;&nbsp; Another names
to consider is &quot;The Meat Hawk&quot;, &quot;Snake-Killer&quot;,
Night-Hawk, Hen-hawk, Sparrow-Hawk (I believe this is the American
Kestrel), Smiter-hawk (a blueish hawk), Grey hawk,&nbsp; and the
Fish-hawk (possibly the Osprey).&nbsp; Any help with these names and
putting a contemporary 'face' would be really appreciated.<br><br>
Tuma <br>
Halifax<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Koqwaqja'tekaq'tinej.<br>
(Let Us Choose The Correct Behaviour)<br><br>
<br>
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<font face="Tahoma" size=2><b>From:</b> James W. Wolford
&lt;jimwolford@eastlink.ca&gt;<br>
<b>To:</b> NatureNS &lt;naturens@chebucto.ns.ca&gt;; Tuma Young
&lt;tumayoung@yahoo.ca&gt;; John Gilhen &lt;GILHENJA@gov.ns.ca&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sun, September 19, 2010 6:25:22 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> further re Toad Hawk?<br>
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Tuma, Another comment re black snakes in Nova Scotia: melanistic or black
Maritime garter snakes occur on George's Island in Halifax Harbour, I
believe, but perhaps nowhere else in N.S.?&nbsp; (However, all snakes and
most vertebrates can very rarely show black individuals, e.g. black red
squirrels, black groundhogs, black voles, etc.&nbsp; Cheers from Jim in
Wolfville<br><br>
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Wolford&quot;
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<b>Date: </b>September 19, 2010 6:17:39 PM ADT<br>
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&gt;, Tuma Young
&lt;tumayoung@yahoo.ca&gt;<br>
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Tuma, I would have suggested our broad-winged hawk as a candidate, since
it often preys upon snakes -- another candidate that is quite rare in
N.S. would be red-shouldered hawk.&nbsp; Jim in Wolfville<br><br>
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<b>Date: </b>September 19, 2010 1:04:01 PM ADT<br>
<b>To:
</b>naturens@chebucto.ns.ca,
tumayoung@yahoo.ca<br>
<b>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Toad Hawk<br>
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Hi Tuma:<br><br>
All the buteos will catch and eat snakes and amphibia. However, I would
favour N. Harrier as catching these even moreso, and being suffiently
distinct to catch attention.. Just a guess.<br><br>
Cheers, Ian<br><br>
<br><br>
Quoting Tuma Young
&lt;tumayoung@yahoo.ca&gt;:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Kwe Msit Wen:<br><br>
In my search for Mi'kmaq names of birds, I have come across an old name
for a<br>
particular hawk-it is called a Toad Hawk or a Snake-killer hawk.&nbsp; It
is known to<br>
be a &quot;...Killer of Black Snakes...&quot;&nbsp; Any one have any idea
of which hawk this<br>
may refer to?<br><br>
Your help is appreciated.<br><br>
Tuma Young<br>
Halifax<br>
&nbsp;Koqwaqja'tekaq'tinej.<br>
(Let Us Choose The Correct Behaviour)<br><br>
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