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I know most of my knowledge and best life experiences came while armed =
with traps, guns, fishing rods,.... while enjoying "The Harvest".
Hunting, Fishing and Gathering was (and continue to be) the bases for =
discovery, invention, and most importantly identification of habitats =
and then ultimately to their protection. These activities are the true =
"canaries" because they travel further, deeper, wider, access more =
remote areas, and spend far greater time afield then the vast majority. =
Also some of the most knowledgeable active stewards of nature first put =
their feet to the ground, river, lake,and ocean as harvesters. How about =
when search parities are needed (in wilderness areas) who's knowledge of =
the area and skill set is sought out and depended on. One doesn't need =
to look any further than our First Nations. (oh perhaps they were =
miners).
Now a days, I still enjoy the hunt relying on previously developed skill =
sets but now I mostly carry a camera and binoculars.
And so the evolution continues.=20
Tom K
Canso
----- Original Message -----=20
From: David & Alison Webster=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:03 PM
Subject: Habitat conservation: was Re: [NatureNS] ?!
Hello All, Jan 31, 2012
Just to put some balance in this discussion, and I do not wish to =
defend the hunting of animals from vehicles, it has been my experience =
(and perhaps I am out of date) that hunters and sports fishermen tend to =
willingly support conservation of habitat with their own money whereas =
naturalist organizations tend to be generous with other people's (tax) =
money.=20
I am amused by the insinuation that there is something unsavory =
about hunting and fishing. I hope Aldo Leopold, wherever he may be, is =
suitably ashamed of himself.=20
In general, animals become less common as a result of habitat =
impairment, not from hunting or fishing activities.=20
Drawing on memory, The Audubon Society was founded by an editor of =
a rod and game magazine with funds (I think) drawn from rod and game =
organizations. And the nucleus of Canada's National Park system was =
established at the urging big game hunters so that large areas of high =
quality habitat would be set aside in which hunting would be prohibited.
Based on personal experience, most people involved in rod and game =
activities have a deep appreciation of the natural world.=20
Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: ulli@dunlin.ca=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] ?!
Well,
no don't need to look that far.
On our own doorstep we have an active Sport Fishing crowd on fresh =
and salt water, shark fishing derbys off shore, plenty of Sunday morning =
hunting and fishing shows on TV with "Sport" in the title, and then =
there is Ducks Unlimited.=20
Sure this organization created a lot of protected waterfowl habitat, =
and so do other organizations in this kind of recreational activities in =
other areas.
Lots of good work is done, important work. But the taste of a self =
serving purpose often remains ........
Ulli
> true!
>=20
> On 31/01/12 7:36 AM, John and Nhung wrote:
> > "Sport" can be pretty obscene sometimes, can't it?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]
> > On Behalf Of Annabelle Thiebaux
> > Sent: January-31-12 7:16 AM
> > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> > Subject: [NatureNS] ?!
> >
> >> The houbara bustard, a gentle desert bird native to Central =
Asia, has
> >> been poached to near-extinction despite being protected under
> >> Pakistani law. These birds need your help!
> >>
> >> The Sindh Wildlife Department has full authority to control =
sport
> >> hunting. However, influential local personalities support this
> >> tradition, and the law is not enforced.
> >
> >> These birds are crucial to maintaining the biodiversity of the =
Middle
> >> East and Central Asia, but are expected to go extinct in as =
little as
> >> 15 years if sport hunting is kept up.
> >>
> >
> >
>=20
=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I know most of my knowledge and best =
life=20
experiences came while armed with traps, guns, fishing rods,.... while =
enjoying=20
"The Harvest".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hunting, Fishing and Gathering was (and =
continue to=20
be) the bases for discovery, invention, and most importantly =
identification of=20
habitats and then ultimately to their protection. These activities are =
the true=20
"canaries" because they travel further, deeper, wider, access more =
remote areas,=20
and spend far greater time afield then the vast majority. Also some of =
the most=20
knowledgeable active stewards of nature first put their feet to the =
ground,=20
river, lake,and ocean as harvesters. How about when search parities are =
needed=20
(in wilderness areas) who's knowledge of the area and skill set is =
sought out=20
and depended on. One doesn't need to look any further than our First =
Nations.=20
(oh perhaps they were miners).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Now a days, I still enjoy the hunt relying on previously developed =
skill=20
sets but now I mostly carry a camera and binoculars.</DIV>
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<DIV>And so the evolution continues. </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tom <SPAN class=3Dsquiggly=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Canso</FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D2=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddwebster@glinx.com href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com">David =
&=20
Alison Webster</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 31, 2012 =
8:03=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Habitat conservation: =
was Re:=20
[NatureNS] ?!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hello All, =20
Jan 31,=20
2012</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> Just to put some balance in =
this=20
discussion, and I do not wish to defend the hunting of animals from =
vehicles,=20
it has been my experience (and perhaps I am out of date) that hunters =
and=20
sports fishermen tend to willingly support conservation of=20
habitat with their own money whereas naturalist organizations =
tend to be=20
generous with other people's (tax) money. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> I am amused by the insinuation =
that there=20
is something unsavory about hunting and fishing. I hope Aldo Leopold, =
wherever=20
he may be, is suitably ashamed of himself. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> In general, animals become less =
common as=20
a result of habitat impairment, not from hunting or fishing=20
activities. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> Drawing on memory, The Audubon =
Society=20
was founded by an editor of a rod and game magazine with funds (I =
think) drawn=20
from rod and game organizations. And the nucleus of Canada's National =
Park=20
system was established at the urging big game hunters so that =
large areas=20
of high quality habitat would be set aside in which hunting would be=20
prohibited.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> Based on personal experience, =
most people=20
involved in rod and game activities have a deep appreciation of =
the=20
natural world. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dulli@dunlin.ca =
href=3D"mailto:ulli@dunlin.ca">ulli@dunlin.ca</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 31, =
2012 8:48=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] =
?!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Well,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">no=20
don't need to look that far.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">On our=20
own doorstep we have an active Sport Fishing crowd on fresh and salt =
water,=20
shark fishing derbys off shore, plenty of Sunday morning hunting and =
fishing=20
shows on TV with "Sport" in the title, and then there is Ducks =
Unlimited.=20
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sure=20
this organization created a lot of protected waterfowl habitat, and =
so do=20
other organizations in this kind of recreational activities in other =
areas.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Lots=20
of good work is done, important work. But the taste of a self =
serving=20
purpose often remains ........</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Ulli</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> true!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> On 31/01/12 7:36 AM, John and Nhung=20
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > "Sport" can be pretty obscene =
sometimes,=20
can't it?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> ></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > -----Original=20
Message-----</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > From: =
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca=20
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > On Behalf Of Annabelle=20
Thiebaux</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > Sent: January-31-12 7:16=20
AM</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > To:=20
naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > Subject: [NatureNS] =
?!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> ></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> The houbara bustard, a =
gentle desert=20
bird native to Central Asia, has</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> been poached to =
near-extinction=20
despite being protected under</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> Pakistani law. These birds =
need your=20
help!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> The Sindh Wildlife =
Department has full=20
authority to control sport</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> hunting. However, =
influential local=20
personalities support this</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> tradition, and the law is =
not=20
enforced.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> ></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> These birds are crucial to =
maintaining=20
the biodiversity of the Middle</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> East and Central Asia, but =
are=20
expected to go extinct in as little as</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> 15 years if sport hunting is =
kept=20
up.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
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<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
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<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
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