[NatureNS] Longfin vs. Shortfin Squids

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> From: "James W. Wolford" <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>
> Date: August 27, 2012 5:49:18 PM ADT
> To: Nature BNS <nature@blomidonnaturalists.ca>
> Cc: Mike Dadswell <mike.dadswell@acadiau.ca>, Andrew Hebda  
> <HEBDAAJ@gov.ns.ca>
> Subject: [ValleyNature] Longfin vs. Shortfin Squids
>
> You can guess from their names how to tell which is which.  Google  
> drawings or photos of them and look at the length of the side fins  
> in relation to the length of the mantle (body sheath behind the  
> head) -- the Loligo or longfin squid has fins that are about half  
> the length of the mantle or a bit longer, whereas the shortfin  
> squid or Illex has fins that are much, much less than half the  
> mantle length -- no measurements are required, BUT keep in mind  
> that Nova Scotia has other species of squids, especially ones that  
> are much smaller in size, I think -- maybe Andrew Hebda or Mike  
> Dadswell can look this up for us?
>
> P.S. Squids are not fish, except perhaps for Paul.  Paul, where is  
> your wharf??
>
> Cheers from Jim in Wolfville
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com>
>> Date: August 27, 2012 2:05:37 PM ADT
>> To: Nature NS <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> Subject: [NatureNS] Squid
>> Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>>
>> Hi All
>> This appears to be the year of the squid as Peter has
>> said on a couple of posts.
>> I went down to the wharf last evening and folks who usually catch  
>> mackerel
>> were there catching squid. I had often heard of a few there in June
>> but never as late as this or as many. Lots of folks are eating  
>> them and it was easy to give
>> away the few I caught although I wanted them for bait. I'll need  
>> go when
>> no one else is there ! Not bad eating though! Sort of between 25  
>> and 45 cms.
>> Does anyone know if they are Northern shortfin squid ( Illex  
>> illecebrosus  )
>> or Longfin inshore squid   ( Loligo pealeii ) ?
>> And how to tell the difference.
>> An interesting fish The population seems to vary a lot sort of
>> boom or bust. A young herring gull on the wharf ate 3 which it
>> stole from anglers and then went and sat on the water digesting
>> the meal. It liked the boom population.
>> Have a nice summer
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br =
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</b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica">"James W. Wolford" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;</fon=
t></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
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#000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">August 27, 2012 5:49:18 PM =
ADT</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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#000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">Nature BNS &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:nature@blomidonnaturalists.ca">nature@blomidonnaturalists.c=
a</a>&gt;</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">Mike Dadswell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mike.dadswell@acadiau.ca">mike.dadswell@acadiau.ca</a>&gt;,=
 Andrew Hebda &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:HEBDAAJ@gov.ns.ca">HEBDAAJ@gov.ns.ca</a>&gt;</font></div><d=
iv style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
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style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Subject: =
</b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica"><b>[ValleyNature] Longfin vs. Shortfin =
Squids</b></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div>  =
You can guess from their names how to tell which is which. &nbsp;Google =
drawings or photos of them and look at the length of the side fins in =
relation to the length of the mantle (body sheath behind the head) -- =
the Loligo or longfin squid has fins that are about half the length of =
the mantle or a bit longer, whereas the shortfin squid or Illex has fins =
that are much, much less than half the mantle length -- no measurements =
are required, BUT keep in mind that Nova Scotia has other species of =
squids, especially ones that are much smaller in size, I think -- maybe =
Andrew Hebda or Mike Dadswell can look this up for =
us?<div><br></div><div>P.S. Squids are not fish, except perhaps for =
Paul. &nbsp;Paul, where is your wharf??</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers =
from Jim in Wolfville<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>From: =
</b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica">Paul MacDonald &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:paulrita2001@yahoo.com">paulrita2001@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</fon=
t></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
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color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: =
#000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">August 27, 2012 2:05:37 PM =
ADT</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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#000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">Nature NS &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>&gt;</f=
ont></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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Squid</b></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <div =
style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, =
new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div id=3D"yiv369250038"><div><div =
style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'times new =
roman', 'new york', times, serif; "><div =
id=3D"yiv369250038yui_3_2_0_15_134608576393743"><h1 =
id=3D"yiv369250038article-title-1" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: =
10px 0px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline-style: none; =
line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; " =
class=3D"yui_3_2_0_18_134608631549268"><span style=3D"background-color: =
transparent; "><div style=3D"background-color: transparent; display: =
inline !important; font-weight: normal; ">Hi =
All</div></span></h1><div><span style=3D"background-color: transparent; =
"><div style=3D"background-color: transparent; display: inline =
!important; font-weight: normal; ">This appears to be the year of the =
squid as Peter has</div></span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color:=
 transparent; "><div style=3D"background-color: transparent; display: =
inline !important; font-weight: normal; ">said on a couple of =
posts.</div></span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color: =
transparent; "><div style=3D"background-color: transparent; display: =
inline !important; font-weight: normal; ">I went down to the wharf last =
evening and folks who usually catch =
mackerel&nbsp;</div></span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color: =
transparent; "><div style=3D"background-color: transparent; display: =
inline !important; font-weight: normal; ">were there catching squid. I =
had often heard of a few there in June</div></span></div><div><span =
style=3D"background-color: transparent; "><div style=3D"background-color: =
transparent; display: inline !important; font-weight: normal; ">but =
never as late as this or as many. Lots of folks are eating them and it =
was easy to give</div></span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color: =
transparent; "><div style=3D"background-color: transparent; display: =
inline !important; font-weight: normal; ">away the few I caught although =
I wanted them for bait. I'll need go when</div></span></div><div><span =
style=3D"background-color: transparent; "><div style=3D"background-color: =
transparent; display: inline !important; font-weight: normal; ">no one =
else is there ! Not bad eating though! Sort of between 25 and 45 =
cms.</div></span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color: =
transparent; "><div style=3D"background-color: transparent; display: =
inline !important; font-weight: normal; ">Does anyone know if they =
are&nbsp;</div></span><i style=3D"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New =
Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; line-height: inherit; background-color: =
transparent; "><div style=3D"background-color: transparent; display: =
inline !important; ">Northern shortfin squid ( Illex illecebrosus =
&nbsp;)</div></i></div><div><i style=3D"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New =
Roman', serif; background-color: transparent; "><div =
style=3D"background-color: transparent; display: inline !important; =
">or&nbsp;Longfin inshore squid &nbsp; ( Loligo pealeii ) =
?</div></i></div><div><span style=3D"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New =
Roman', serif; background-color: transparent; "><div =
style=3D"background-color: transparent; display: inline !important; =
">And how to tell the difference.</div></span></div><div><span =
style=3D"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; =
background-color: transparent; "><div style=3D"background-color: =
transparent; display: inline !important; ">An interesting fish The =
population seems to vary a lot sort of</div></span></div><div><span =
style=3D"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; =
background-color: transparent; "><div style=3D"background-color: =
transparent; display: inline !important; ">boom or bust. A young herring =
gull on the wharf ate 3 which it</div></span></div><div><span =
style=3D"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; =
background-color: transparent; "><div style=3D"background-color: =
transparent; display: inline !important; ">stole from anglers and then =
went and sat on the water digesting</div></span></div><div><span =
style=3D"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; =
background-color: transparent; "><div style=3D"background-color: =
transparent; display: inline !important; ">the meal. It liked the boom =
population.</div></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-family: Georgia, =
'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: transparent; "><div =
style=3D"background-color: transparent; display: inline !important; =
">Have a nice summer</div></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-family: =
Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: transparent; "><div =
style=3D"background-color: transparent; display: inline !important; =
">Paul</div></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-family: Georgia, =
'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: transparent; "><div =
style=3D"background-color: transparent; display: inline !important; =
"><br></div></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-family: Georgia, =
'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: transparent; "><div =
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