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--Apple-Mail-19--361426928 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed WOW! THANKS, BRENNAN! from Jim and NatureNS list Begin forwarded message: > From: Brennan Caverhill <brennan.caverhill@gmail.com> > Date: October 5, 2012 12:48:54 PM ADT > To: "James W. Wolford" <jimwolford@eastlink.ca> > Cc: Jeffie McNeil <jeffie@eastlink.ca>, steve mockford > <stephen.mockford@acadiau.ca> > Subject: Re: re hatching of turtle eggs > > Hi Jim - I've seen Blanding's emerge in spring as well! (so has > Jeffie) and snappers do it too. Painters seem to be the best at it > though. Whether the eggs hatch in fall, remain in the nest then > emerge in spring ... OR ... whether they remain in the egg, then > hatch AND emerge in spring is a tough question to answer ... > without fiber-optic cameras and invasive techniques! > > Brennan > > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:22 AM, James W. Wolford > <jimwolford@eastlink.ca> wrote: > Gayle and Paul et al., actually I believe it is the painted turtle > in which the eggs hatch in Fall but the hatchlings overwinter in > the nest before emerging in the Spring. I don't recall whether the > snapping turtle occasionally does this, too? But I am forwarding > this to John Gilhen for some definitive word on this. Cheers from > Jim in Wolfville. > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: duartess@ns.sympatico.ca >> Date: October 4, 2012 7:47:48 PM ADT >> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >> Cc: Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Robins, Cardinals, Etc >> Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >> >> Lol! >> Well, actually, up until late last week, a Great Blue Heron was >> occasionally stationed right by the area where the Snapping Turtle >> nest is and I often wondered if maybe they might already have >> become lunch for this big bird, never mind the raccoons! >> But yes, I read that also, that sometimes they would not hatch >> until the following Spring, but, thought that, considering they >> were laid very early in June & that the summer was so very warm, >> that they would have hatched by now. Anyway, who knows? Will keep >> checking as it is on my route of my dog walks..... >> >> Enjoy the Fall, everyone & wish you all, a very Happy Thanksgiving! >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Gayle MacLean >> Dartmouth >> >> ---- Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> One of the Keji people told me Gayle that >>> sometimes the turtles eggs do not hatch til spring. >>> And perhaps all do not hatch at once. >>> You can be sure the newly hatched turtles will make a quick >>> getaway or they will be raccoon treats.... >>> >>> Enjoy the fall >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: "duartess@ns.sympatico.ca" <duartess@ns.sympatico.ca> >>> To: Naturelist <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 4:18:54 PM >>> Subject: [NatureNS] Robins, Cardinals, Etc >>> >>> ....The Snapping Turtle nest at Red Bridge Pond appears to be >>> undisturbed. Truly, I would think that the eggs have probably >>> hatched by now but I haven't seen any evidence, like a shell. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Gayle MacLean >>> Dartmouth > > --Apple-Mail-19--361426928 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "> WOW! THANKS, BRENNAN! from Jim and NatureNS list<br><div><br><div>Begin = forwarded message:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>From: = </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica">Brennan Caverhill <<a = href=3D"mailto:brennan.caverhill@gmail.com">brennan.caverhill@gmail.com</a= >></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">October 5, 2012 12:48:54 PM = ADT</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">"James W. Wolford" <<a = href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>></fon= t></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>Cc: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">Jeffie McNeil <<a = href=3D"mailto:jeffie@eastlink.ca">jeffie@eastlink.ca</a>>, steve = mockford <<a = href=3D"mailto:stephen.mockford@acadiau.ca">stephen.mockford@acadiau.ca</a= >></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>Re: re hatching of turtle = eggs</b></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> Hi = Jim - I've seen Blanding's emerge in spring as well! (so has Jeffie) and = snappers do it too. Painters seem to be the best at it though. Whether = the eggs hatch in fall, remain in the nest then emerge in spring ... OR = ... whether they remain in the egg, then hatch AND emerge in spring is a = tough question to answer ... without fiber-optic cameras and invasive = techniques!<div> <br></div><div>Brennan</div><div><br><br><div = class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:22 AM, James W. Wolford = <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca" = target=3D"_blank">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br> = <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 = .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div = style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Gayle and Paul et al., actually I believe = it is the painted turtle in which the eggs hatch in Fall but the = hatchlings overwinter in the nest before emerging in the Spring. I = don't recall whether the snapping turtle occasionally does this, too? = But I am forwarding this to John Gilhen for some definitive word = on this. Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.<br> <div><br><div>Begin = forwarded message:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica"><b>From: </b></font><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica"><a = href=3D"mailto:duartess@ns.sympatico.ca" = target=3D"_blank">duartess@ns.sympatico.ca</a></font></div> <div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica"><b>Date: </b></font><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica">October 4, = 2012 7:47:48 PM ADT</font></div> <div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica"><b>To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica"= size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica"><a = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" = target=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font></div> <div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica"><b>Cc: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica"= size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica">Paul MacDonald <<a = href=3D"mailto:paulrita2001@yahoo.com" = target=3D"_blank">paulrita2001@yahoo.com</a>></font></div> <div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica"><b>Subject: </b></font><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica"><b>Re: = [NatureNS] Robins, Cardinals, Etc</b></font></div> <div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica"><b>Reply-To: </b></font><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica"><a = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" = target=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font></div> <div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ;min-height:14px"><br></div> <div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">Lol!</div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= "> Well, actually, up until late last week, a Great Blue Heron was = occasionally stationed right by the area where the Snapping Turtle nest = is and I often wondered if maybe they might already have become lunch = for this big bird, never mind the raccoons!<span> </span></div> = <div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">But yes, I read that also, that sometimes they would not hatch until = the following Spring, but, thought that, considering they were laid very = early in June & that the summer was so very warm, that they would = have hatched by now. Anyway, who knows? Will keep checking as it is on = my route of my dog walks.....</div> <div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">Enjoy the Fall, everyone & wish you all, a very Happy = Thanksgiving!</div> <div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ;min-height:14px"><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">Sincerely,</div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ;min-height:14px"> <br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">Gayle MacLean</div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">Dartmouth</div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ;min-height:14px"> <br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">---- Paul MacDonald <<a href=3D"mailto:paulrita2001@yahoo.com" = target=3D"_blank">paulrita2001@yahoo.com</a>> = wrote:<span> </span></div> </blockquote><br><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> <blockquote type=3D"cite"><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">One of the Keji people told me Gayle that</div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= "> sometimes the turtles eggs do not hatch til spring.</div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">And perhaps all do not hatch at once.</div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= "> You can be sure the newly hatched turtles will make a quick</div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">getaway or they will be raccoon treats....</div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= "> <br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">Enjoy the fall</div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">Paul</div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ;min-height:14px"> <br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ;min-height:14px"><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ;min-height:14px"><br></div> <div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= "> ________________________________</div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= "><span> </span>From: "<a href=3D"mailto:duartess@ns.sympatico.ca" = target=3D"_blank">duartess@ns.sympatico.ca</a>" <<a = href=3D"mailto:duartess@ns.sympatico.ca" = target=3D"_blank">duartess@ns.sympatico.ca</a>></div> <div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">To: Naturelist <<a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" = target=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>><span> </span></div>= <div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= "> Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 4:18:54 PM</div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">Subject: [NatureNS] Robins, Cardinals, Etc</div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ;min-height:14px"> <br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">....The Snapping Turtle nest at Red Bridge Pond appears to be = undisturbed. Truly, I would think that the eggs have probably hatched by = now but I haven't seen any evidence, like a = shell.<span> </span></div> <div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ;min-height:14px"><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">Sincerely,</div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ;min-height:14px"> <br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">Gayle MacLean</div><div = style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px= ">Dartmouth</div> </blockquote></blockquote> = </div><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote></div><br></body= ></html>= --Apple-Mail-19--361426928--
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