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Hi Jim & All, Jan 23, 2013
My estimate was ~45,000 (or perhaps >100,000) based on estimated =
flight speed of 30 mph; perhaps way to fast, I don't know: pasted below.
For years I think Kentville used exploding shells of some kind. And =
they tried to move them on before they landed, by having crow disturbers =
widely distributed. This latter approach was my recommendation, based on =
experience with bird depredation control, and I was told subsequently by =
Mayor Pope that my suggestions had been followed.
Yt, DW, Kentville =20
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Hi Jim & All, May 9, 2002
At the peak, sometime in the early 90's I think, I would estimate =
that at
least 45,000 crows flew each evening to Kentville winter roosts from the =
east.The flights were often well under way when I left work, more or =
less continuous and were still going strong when I arrived home more =
than 30 minutes later. The skeins were diffuse but broad and if all were =
drawn together into one line, there would have been at the very least =
one column beak to tail and probably three; an impressive sight and very =
impressive I would think if you are potential crow food.
If crows fly 30 mph and are 20" long then 15 miles x 5280 X 12 =
/20=3D>47,520 crows.
The Town has in recent years encouraged the crows to roost elsewhere =
and the numbers here are down. But even if they have winter roosts in =
New Minas and move NE with the spring, they still have to eat every day.
Yours truly, Dave Webster, Kentville
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From: James W. Wolford=20
To: NatureNS=20
Cc: Randy Milton=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 4:28 PM
Subject: [NatureNS] re Kentville & The Phoenix Wailer & Hfx. & MSVU =
roost
Interesting thread started by James Churchill -- I think the figure of =
40,000 crows for Kentville a long time ago was bogus, based probably on =
the highest count ever gotten by Randy Milton when he had teams of =
people counting the incoming birds from all directions at dusk as they =
homed in on their long-time roost on Boot Island off ne. Grand Pre. =
Perhaps Randy can confirm this for the mid-1970s?, and maybe Richard =
Stern or someone else can comment on any real counts attempted later in =
Kentville, where a couple of Phoenix Wailers (invented in Truro area?) =
were used for a long time and moved around with the changing roost =
locations within Kentville.
The last thing I recall hearing more recently about crow roosts in =
towns was for the pines? in a park in Berwick? and/or Aylesford??
Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Bob McDonald <bobathome83@gmail.com>
Date: January 23, 2013 3:40:16 PM AST
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Cc: Bob McDonald <bobathome83@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] The Phoenix Wailer
Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Hmmm.... That's just about the time when the number of crows at the =
Mount started to increase significantly. But the number at MSVU is much =
smaller - more like ~7500 at last count. I wonder how widely they might =
have dispersed?
Bob McDonald
Halifax
----- Original Message -----
From: James Churchill
To: naturens
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:07 PM
Subject: [NatureNS] The Phoenix Wailer
an excerpt from the Register/Advertiser Justice section:
=20
Crows a concern
After a couple of complaints about a murder of crows, the village =
of New Minas tried firing some blanks last week to disperse the birds.
On Jan. 11, a village resident called police to report hearing =
gunshots near the Empire Theatre.
Superintendent of works Peter Pothier said Monday that the village =
does not have a crow eradication program and any resident disturbed by =
the birds should contact the province=92s natural resources department.
As many as 40,000 crows were plaguing the town of Kentville =
approximately 17 years ago. Eventually, the Phoenix Wailer, a device =
that emits random sounds, was used successfully.
--=20
James Churchill
Kentville, Nova Scotia
Email: jameslchurchill@gmail.com
Phone (h): (902) 681-2374
Skype: jameslchurchill
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Jim & All, =
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23, 2013</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> My estimate was ~45,000 (or =
perhaps=20
>100,000) based on estimated flight speed of 30 mph; perhaps way to =
fast, I=20
don't know: pasted below.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> For years I think Kentville used =
exploding=20
shells of some kind. And they tried to move them on before =
they=20
landed, by having crow disturbers widely distributed. This latter=20
approach was my recommendation, based on experience with bird =
depredation=20
control, and I was told subsequently by Mayor Pope that my suggestions =
had been=20
followed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Yt, DW, Kentville </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2> </FONT><FONT size=3D3>Hi Jim =
&=20
All, &nb=
sp; =20
May 9, 2002<BR> At the peak, sometime in the early =
90's I=20
think, I would estimate that at<BR>least 45,000 crows flew each evening =
to=20
Kentville winter roosts from the east.The flights were often well under =
way when=20
I left work, more or less continuous and were still going strong =
when I=20
arrived home more than 30 minutes later. The skeins were diffuse but =
broad and=20
if all were drawn together into one line, there would have been at the =
very=20
least one column beak to tail and probably three; an impressive sight =
and very=20
impressive I would think if you are potential crow =
food.<BR> =20
If crows fly 30 mph and are 20" long then 15 miles x 5280 X 12 =
/20=3D>47,520=20
crows.<BR> The Town has in recent years encouraged the crows =
to=20
roost elsewhere and the numbers here are down. But even if they have =
winter=20
roosts in New Minas and move NE with the spring, they still have to eat =
every=20
day.<BR>Yours truly, Dave Webster, Kentville</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Djimwolford@eastlink.ca =
href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">James W.=20
Wolford</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">NatureNS</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dmiltongr@gov.ns.ca=20
href=3D"mailto:miltongr@gov.ns.ca">Randy Milton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 23, =
2013 4:28=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] re =
Kentville &=20
The Phoenix Wailer & Hfx. & MSVU roost</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Interesting thread started by James Churchill -- I =
think the=20
figure of 40,000 crows for Kentville a long time ago was bogus, based =
probably=20
on the highest count ever gotten by Randy Milton when he had teams of =
people=20
counting the incoming birds from all directions at dusk as they homed =
in on=20
their long-time roost on Boot Island off ne. Grand Pre. Perhaps =
Randy=20
can confirm this for the mid-1970s?, and maybe Richard Stern or =
someone else=20
can comment on any real counts attempted later in Kentville, where a =
couple of=20
Phoenix Wailers (invented in Truro area?) were used for a long time =
and moved=20
around with the changing roost locations within Kentville.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The last thing I recall hearing more recently about crow roosts =
in towns=20
was for the pines? in a park in Berwick? and/or Aylesford??<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.<BR>
<DIV><BR>
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style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica>Bob =
McDonald <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:bobathome83@gmail.com">bobathome83@gmail.com</A>></FONT=
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href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A></FONT=
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style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica>Bob =
McDonald <<A=20
=
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style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Re: =
[NatureNS] The=20
Phoenix Wailer</B></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hmmm.... That's just about =
the time when=20
the number of crows at the Mount started to increase =
significantly. =20
But the number at MSVU is much smaller - more like ~7500 =
at last=20
count. I wonder how widely they might have =
dispersed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Bob McDonald</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Halifax</FONT></DIV>
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title=3Djameslchurchill@gmail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:jameslchurchill@gmail.com">James =
Churchill</A></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A =
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens</A></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Wednesday, January 23, =
2013 3:07=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>[NatureNS] The Phoenix=20
Wailer</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>an excerpt from the Register/Advertiser Justice =
section:
<DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
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a concern</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; =
BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(170,170,170); MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; =
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BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; COLOR: rgb(77,77,77); =
FONT-SIZE: 1.4em; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">After=20
a couple of complaints about a murder of crows, the village of New =
Minas=20
tried firing some blanks last week to disperse the birds.</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; =
BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(170,170,170); MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; =
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BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; COLOR: rgb(77,77,77); =
FONT-SIZE: 1.4em; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">On=20
Jan. 11, a village resident called police to report hearing =
gunshots near=20
the Empire Theatre.</DIV>
<DIV=20
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BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(170,170,170); MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; =
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FONT-SIZE: 1.4em; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-TOP: =
0px">Superintendent=20
of works Peter Pothier said Monday that the village does not have =
a crow=20
eradication program and any resident disturbed by the birds should =
contact=20
the province=92s natural resources department.</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; =
BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(170,170,170); MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; =
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BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; COLOR: rgb(77,77,77); =
FONT-SIZE: 1.4em; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">As=20
many as 40,000 crows were plaguing the town of Kentville =
approximately 17=20
years ago. Eventually, the Phoenix Wailer, a device that emits =
random=20
sounds, was used successfully.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>--<SPAN =
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>James=20
Churchill<BR>Kentville, Nova Scotia<BR>Email:<SPAN=20
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A=20
href=3D"mailto:jameslchurchill@gmail.com"=20
target=3D_blank>jameslchurchill@gmail.com</A><BR>Phone (h): (902)=20
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