[NatureNS] How to foil starlings at Niger seed feeders

From: "Don MacNeill" <donmacneill@bellaliant.net>
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Update.  The 4 wires hanging down didn't work so I upped that to 12 =
wires spaced evenly.  Even that hasn't stopped the starlings getting to =
the niger sock (it's raining outside now or I would measure the distance =
between the wires and the diameter of the ring).  I replaced the sock =
with an upside-down niger feeder which has stopped the starlings but the =
numbers of finches using it is reduced.

Don

Don MacNeill
donmacneill@bellaliant.net
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Don MacNeill=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] How to foil starlings at Niger seed feeders


Following up on Chris's suggestion, I found a circular wire contraption =
in our basement.  It has 4 straight wires hanging down from it which I =
can equally space to keep it balanced.  Carol is not here at the moment =
or I would be able to tell you what it is used for in gardening.

I have hung the middle of the circular wire from a hook under my arbour =
and hung the bird sock from the same hook.  Thus the sock has 4 wires =
hanging down around it, a few inches away from the sock.

I'll see if this works.

Don

Don MacNeill
donmacneill@bellaliant.net
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Susann Myers=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] How to foil starlings at Niger seed feeders


Hi, Dave.

The answer to your question is yes, the feeding slots can be narrower.  =
I just bought a new distlefink feeder yesterday - one of the standard =
clear plastic cylinders with 8 perches (on sale, 30% off, at Canadian =
Tire just now).  The openings in it are only 1/16" wide.  This is the =
type of niger seed feeder I've used in the past, and I've never had a =
problem with starlings at them - the openings are too narrow to allow =
the seed to be knocked out.  Redpolls, goldfinches, crossbills and =
chickadees all can feed at them with no difficulty, but starlings and =
other larger birds are restricted to feeding on the small amount of seed =
that drops below the feeder.

Re Don's response, I use starling-exclusion wire around my oriole/chat =
feeders.  The openings are 1-3/8" square, and that is just small enough =
to keep startlings out.  I use lobster-trap wire, which is very =
heavy-duty, because I build a cage with perches etc., but there must be =
lighter-guage wire with similar openings.  Any larger than 1-3/8" will =
let the starlings through, however.

Cheers,
Susann Myers
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Dave&Jane Schlosberg=20
  To: NatureNS=20
  Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:08 PM
  Subject: [NatureNS] How to foil starlings at Niger seed feeders


  My Niger seed feeder is a tube with 4 perches and feeding slots which =
are exactly  1/8=E2=80=9D wide and 1/2=E2=80=9D long.
  The starlings have a feast with them by one starling knocking the seed =
out onto the ground while the others, on the ground, feed.
  Can I get away with a more narrow slot which will stop the starlings =
but not the small finches?

  Yours...Dave S....
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Update.&nbsp; The 4 wires hanging down =
didn't work=20
so I upped that to 12 wires spaced evenly.&nbsp; Even that hasn't =
stopped the=20
starlings getting to the niger sock (it's raining outside now or I would =
measure=20
the distance between the wires and the diameter of the ring).&nbsp; I =
replaced=20
the sock with an upside-down niger feeder which has stopped the =
starlings but=20
the numbers of finches using it is reduced.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Don</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Don MacNeill<BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:donmacneill@bellaliant.net">donmacneill@bellaliant.net</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Ddonmacneill@bellaliant.net =
href=3D"mailto:donmacneill@bellaliant.net">Don=20
MacNeill</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 14, 2013 1:36 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] How to foil starlings at Niger seed=20
feeders</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Following up on Chris's =
suggestion,&nbsp;I found a=20
circular wire contraption in our basement.&nbsp; It has 4 straight wires =
hanging=20
down from it which I can equally space to keep it balanced.&nbsp; Carol =
is not=20
here at the moment or I would be able to tell you what it is used for in =

gardening.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I have hung the middle of the circular =
wire=20
from&nbsp;a hook under my arbour and hung the bird sock from the same=20
hook.&nbsp; Thus the sock has 4 wires hanging down around it, a few =
inches away=20
from the sock.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I'll see if this works.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Don</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Don MacNeill<BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:donmacneill@bellaliant.net">donmacneill@bellaliant.net</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dmyerss@eastlink.ca href=3D"mailto:myerss@eastlink.ca">Susann =
Myers</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 14, 2013 12:12 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] How to foil starlings at Niger seed=20
feeders</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hi, Dave.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The answer to your question is yes, the =
feeding=20
slots can be narrower.&nbsp; I just bought a new distlefink=20
feeder&nbsp;yesterday - one of the standard clear plastic cylinders with =
8=20
perches (on sale, 30% off, at Canadian Tire just now).&nbsp; The =
openings in it=20
are only 1/16" wide.&nbsp; This is the type of niger seed feeder I've =
used in=20
the past, and I've never had a problem with starlings at them - the =
openings are=20
too narrow to allow the seed to be knocked out.&nbsp; Redpolls, =
goldfinches,=20
crossbills and chickadees all can feed at them with no difficulty, but =
starlings=20
and other larger birds are restricted to feeding on the small amount of =
seed=20
that drops below the feeder.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Re Don's response, I use =
starling-exclusion wire=20
around my oriole/chat feeders.&nbsp; The openings are 1-3/8" square, and =
that is=20
just small enough to keep startlings out.&nbsp; I use lobster-trap wire, =
which=20
is very heavy-duty, because I build a cage with perches etc., but there =
must be=20
lighter-guage wire with similar openings.&nbsp; Any larger than 1-3/8" =
will let=20
the starlings through, however.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Susann Myers</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Ddschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca=20
  href=3D"mailto:dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca">Dave&amp;Jane =
Schlosberg</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
  href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">NatureNS</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 13, 2013 =
11:08=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] How to foil =
starlings=20
  at Niger seed feeders</DIV>
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  <DIV>My Niger seed feeder is a tube with 4 perches and feeding slots =
which are=20
  exactly&nbsp; 1/8=E2=80=9D wide and 1/2=E2=80=9D long.</DIV>
  <DIV>The starlings have a feast with them by one starling knocking the =
seed=20
  out onto the ground while the others, on the ground, feed.</DIV>
  <DIV>Can I get away with a more narrow slot which will stop the =
starlings but=20
  not the small finches?</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Yours...Dave S....</DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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