[NatureNS] re reports of "ticks"

From: David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>
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Hi Jim, Andrew & All,                        Apr 29, 2013
    On the subject of ticks I know only slightly more than some authors =
of Tick Fact Sheets.=20
   =20
According to =
http://novascotia.ca/natr/forestprotection/foresthealth/sheets/tick.asp
with respect to Blacklegged ticks--
"Nymphs and adults: 3 - 7 mm; dark brown to black in colour with no =
white marking on dorsal surface; engorged females appear to have an =
orange/yellow coloured abdomen; adults and nymphs have 8 legs." Their =
comparison sketch of Dog and Blacklegged Ticks has 3 drawings,a, b & c =
with no Legend.=20

But, on the other hand, http://www.gov.ns.ca/hpp/cdpc/lyme-photos.asp
has in image of both ticks, max length for Blacklegged being 3 mm, 5 mm =
for Dog; both mostly reddish and yellow.

    So combining the above (and not knowing better) one might conclude =
that a dark brown, black, reddish or yellowish tick 1-7 mm long with 8 =
legs, was a Black-legged tick provided the legs were reddish or =
yellowish. And if it has black legs then one might suppose it is one the =
many other " kinds of ticks in Nova Scotia." =
http://novascotia.ca/news/release/?id=3D20120420008

    Many years ago Andrew gave me a copy of a tick key (Keirans & =
Litwak, 1989) and I used it many times "but evermore Came out by the =
same door where in I went." I sent 10 or so ticks in to Andrew but never =
got any back; feedback helps.=20

    Ticks are difficult to the point that without at least a nucleus of =
authoritatively identified specimens one is just spinning wheels. So =
currently I can recognize with certainty only two kinds of ticks; Bad =
Ticks (on my person) and Good Ticks (somewhere else).

Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville=20


----- Original Message -----=20
  From: James W. Wolford=20
  To: NatureNS=20
  Cc: Andrew Hebda ; Mark F Elderkin=20
  Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:56 PM
  Subject: [NatureNS] re reports of "ticks"


  I know that Dave knows his ticks and assume this one was the usual Am. =
Dog Tick -- please, everyone, try not to report "ticks" -- check out =
some field guides on Internet info' and report which probable species =
was spotted if possible -- also keep collecting specimens and getting =
them to regional offices of N.S. Dept. of Natural Resources, since there =
is so much concern about Lyme Disease and the black-legged ticks or deer =
ticks that carry the bacterium.


  Cheers from Jim, temporarily in central B.C.



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    From: David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>
    Date: April 27, 2013 10:13:31 AM ADT
    To: NatureNS@chebucto.ns.ca
    Subject: [NatureNS] Tick
    Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca


    Dear All,                            Apr 27, 2013
       I also brought a tick home Thursday, probably on the left pant =
leg because, when I had a bath last night I found it firmly attached to =
my left ankle.
       I had my pant legs outside of rubber boots on Thursday, with =
cuffs rolled up, and didn't roll them down until Friday morning =
(requires going outdoors to shed accumulated sawdust) so it must have =
spent the night in the pant cuff.
    YT, DW=20


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On the subject of ticks I know =
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href=3D"http://novascotia.ca/natr/forestprotection/foresthealth/sheets/ti=
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<DIV>with respect to Blacklegged ticks--</DIV>
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<DIV>has in image of both ticks, max length for Blacklegged being 3 mm, =
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mm long&nbsp;with 8&nbsp;legs, was a Black-legged tick provided the legs =
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reddish or yellowish. And if it has black legs then&nbsp;one =
might&nbsp;suppose=20
it is one the many other " kinds of ticks in Nova Scotia." <A=20
href=3D"http://novascotia.ca/news/release/?id=3D20120420008">http://novas=
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<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Many years ago Andrew gave me a copy of a tick =
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Came=20
out by the same door where in I went." I sent 10 or so ticks in to =
Andrew but=20
never got any back; feedback helps. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ticks are difficult to the point that without at =
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nucleus&nbsp;of authoritatively identified specimens one is just =
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wheels. So currently I can recognize with certainty only two kinds of =
ticks; Bad=20
Ticks (on my person) and Good Ticks (somewhere else).</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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