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Hi Carl & All, Apr 30, 2013
Of course 'acaule' means stemless.. And I don't think it is =
desirable to dumb-down terminiology for the benefit of anyone on this =
list. Those who don't know what scape means can readily learn; one value =
of a list such as this.=20
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As for colloquial=3Dcommon names--=20
Gray's Manual of Botany 8th Ed., M.L. Fernald, 1950 gives the =
following colloquial names for C. acaule; Stemless, Common or Two-leaved =
L.
Flora of Nova Scotia Roland & Smith gives one common name for C. =
Acaule; Common Lady's Slipper.
Gray's New Manual of Botany 7th Ed., Robinson & Fernald 1908 gives =
one common name; Stemless L.
These three are all reputable references.
With respect to Fireweed; the last time I checked, fire was not a =
color so there is nothing disjointed about 'white fireweed'. But to =
refer to e.g. the stem length of a stemless white Pink Lady's-Slipper =
seems a bit disjointed.=20
Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Carl Munden=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] ref. C.acaule
Hi all and in particular D. Webster; I apparently HAVE noticed that C. =
acaule is stemless...what do you think acaule means ? I used the word =
stem because the majority of our readers are birders, entymologists or =
astronomers etc. and may not understand what "SCAPE" means. As to Pink =
Lady's-Slipper being somewhat of a misnomer, if you lived in the Gypsum =
area of Hants County, the "common" Lady's-Slipper would be the YELLOW =
one.
As to the matter of white coloured ones, they are definitely less =
common than the normal colour. There are also White Fireweeds. Do we =
still not call them Fireweed ? In all my years of Orchidizing with =
various people and all my books of reference I have never seen it =
referred to as Common Lady's -Slipper although it does have other common =
names in different parts of the country and USA.
If you think that C. acaule does not continue to grow and the leaves =
get bigger after flowering that is your opinion. I think otherwise!
"PSYCODES"
----- Original Message -----=20
From: David & Alison Webster=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] ref. C.acaule
Hi Carl & All Apr 29, 2013 =20
C. acaule, as you apparently have not noticed, is stemless. Pink =
Lady's Slipper is somewhat of a misnomer because some have white =
flowers. Therefore Common LS is to be preferred.=20
One may take it for granted that green leaves in light will =
generate photosynthates. Pink or white flowers will not and they, like =
all living plant tissue, burn photosynthates. Consequently they are a =
drain and decrease the export of photosynthates into underground =
storage organs for use in the coming year.=20
Leaves of plants that emerge late (some plants skip a year =
entirely !) may grow late in the year. But I think you will find that =
leaf growth of flowering plants and early emerging non-flowering slows =
to a crawl or stops before mid July (a guess, as I have never measured =
this because the question is trivial compared to others; such as what =
animal [slug perhaps] eats most leaf parenchyma over large areas in some =
summers ?).=20
Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
=20
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Carl Munden=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:56 PM
Subject: [NatureNS] ref. C.acaule
If the flower is picked or not picked it makes no difference. If =
you watch ALL Cyp. acaule plants AFTER flowering including ones with no =
or broken stems, you will notice that these plants get larger and larger =
up until end of season. Is this not caused by the plant continuing to =
photosynthesize ??
"PSYCODES"
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Carl & All, =
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Apr=20
30, 2013</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> Of course 'acaule' means =
stemless.. And I=20
don't think it is desirable to dumb-down terminiology for the =
benefit=20
of anyone on this list. Those who don't know what scape means can =
readily=20
learn; one value of a list such as this. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>As for colloquial=3Dcommon =
names--</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> Gray's Manual of Botany 8th Ed., =
M.L.=20
Fernald, 1950 gives the following colloquial names for C. acaule; =
Stemless,=20
Common or Two-leaved L.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> Flora of Nova Scotia Roland & =
Smith=20
gives one common name for C. Acaule; Common Lady's Slipper.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> Gray's New Manual of Botany 7th =
Ed.,=20
Robinson & Fernald 1908 gives one common name; Stemless =
L.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> These three are all reputable=20
references.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> With respect to Fireweed; the =
last time I=20
checked, fire was not a color so there is nothing disjointed about =
'white=20
fireweed'. But to refer to e.g. the stem length of a stemless white Pink =
Lady's-Slipper seems a bit disjointed. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> </FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dcarl.munden@ns.sympatico.ca=20
href=3D"mailto:carl.munden@ns.sympatico.ca">Carl Munden</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 30, 2013 =
1:34=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] ref.=20
C.acaule</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Hi all and in particular D. Webster; I apparently =
HAVE=20
noticed that <EM>C. acaule </EM>is stemless...what do you think=20
<EM>acaule</EM> means ? I used the word stem because the majority of =
our=20
readers are birders, entymologists or astronomers etc. and may not =
understand=20
what "SCAPE" means. As to Pink Lady's-Slipper being somewhat of a =
misnomer, if=20
you lived in the Gypsum area of Hants County, the "common" =
Lady's-Slipper=20
would be the YELLOW one.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>As to the matter of white coloured ones, they are =
definitely=20
less common than the normal colour. There are also White Fireweeds. Do =
we=20
still not call them Fireweed ? In all my years of Orchidizing with =
various=20
people and all my books of reference I have never seen it referred to =
as=20
Common Lady's -Slipper although it does have other common names in =
different=20
parts of the country and USA.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>If you think that <EM>C. acaule </EM>does not =
continue to=20
grow and the leaves get bigger after flowering that is your opinion. I =
think=20
otherwise!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>"PSYCODES"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddwebster@glinx.com =
href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com">David &=20
Alison Webster</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 29, 2013 =
7:05=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] ref.=20
C.acaule</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Carl & All =
=20
Apr 29,=20
2013 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> C. acaule, as you =
apparently have=20
not noticed, is stemless. Pink Lady's Slipper is somewhat of a =
misnomer=20
because some have white flowers. Therefore Common LS is to be =
preferred.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> One may take it for granted =
that green=20
leaves in light will generate photosynthates. Pink or white flowers =
will not=20
and they, like all living plant tissue, burn photosynthates.=20
Consequently they are a drain and decrease the export=20
of photosynthates into underground storage organs for use =
in the=20
coming year. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> Leaves of plants that emerge =
late (some=20
plants skip a year entirely !) may grow late in the year. But I =
think you=20
will find that leaf growth of flowering plants and early emerging=20
non-flowering slows to a crawl or stops before mid July (a guess, as =
I have=20
never measured this because the question is trivial compared to =
others; such=20
as what animal [slug perhaps] eats most leaf parenchyma over large =
areas in=20
some summers ?). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> </FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
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<DIV=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dcarl.munden@ns.sympatico.ca=20
href=3D"mailto:carl.munden@ns.sympatico.ca">Carl Munden</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
=
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 29, =
2013 3:56=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] ref.=20
C.acaule</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>If the flower is picked or not picked it makes =
no=20
difference. If you watch ALL <EM>Cyp. acaule </EM>plants AFTER =
flowering=20
including ones with no or broken stems, you will notice that these =
plants=20
get larger and larger up until end of season. Is this not caused =
by the=20
plant continuing to photosynthesize ??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>"PSYCODES"</FONT></DIV><A></A>
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