[NatureNS] re Comfrey vs. Bluebells in NS

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Thanks for your suggestions, James and Jane! I had considered comfrey --
but I'm familiar with the plant, having seen it under cultivation over the
years, but thought that the flowers  and leaf size of the new plant weren't
"right".  I think that James nailed the ID with his suggestion that it
might be rough comfrey, an Old World species I had never heard of. The
photos I found on the web matched exactly.

Here's another botanical puzzler which will no doubt be obvious to NS
natives. There is a peculiarly fleshy weedy plant which grows in ditches
such as the canals feeding the Annapolis River at Bridgetown. It's tall,
grows in dense colonies, and hasn't flowered yet. The stems are speckled
and the leaves are broad and rounded. It has an "invasive alien" feel to
it, at least to this observer.

Any ideas?

Larry Ayers


On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:26 PM, James W. Wolford
<jimwolford@eastlink.ca>wrote:

> I'll bet Jane is right about you probably having common comfrey, Symphytum
> officinale, which is currently in bloom along our rail trail in Wolfville.
>  We also have a less common second species, rough comfrey, S. asperum.
>  Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *Dave&Jane Schlosberg <dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca>
> *Date: *June 27, 2013 7:49:59 PM ADT
> *To: *naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> *Subject: **Re: [NatureNS] Bluebells (Mertensia) in NS*
> *Reply-To: *naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>
>  Could it be comfrey (symphytum officinale)?  Different family, but fits
> your description.
> Jane
>
>  *From:* Larry Ayers <larry.ayers@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 27, 2013 4:58 PM
> *To:* NatureNS <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> *Subject:* [NatureNS] Bluebells (Mertensia) in NS
>
>  Hello -- I'm an American staying in the Round Hill area this summer, and
> I've been trying to identify the native and alien plants in the
> neighborhood. Lots of aliens in the Annapolis Valley!
>
> There's a road ditch in front of a vacant house on Hwy. 201 which harbors
> a profuse growth of a plant which has flowers very like those of the
> Eastern Bluebell, Mertensia virginica. It's a taller plant with rough-hairy
> lanceolate leaves and I'm wondering if it might be Mertensia paniculata,
> the Tall Bluebell. That species grows as far east as Quebec and could have
> been brought to NS as a garden plant, perhaps.
>
> Has anyone seen these?
>
> Larry Ayers
>
>
>

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ltivation over the years, but thought that the flowers =A0and leaf size of =
the new plant weren&#39;t &quot;right&quot;. =A0I think that James nailed t=
he ID with his suggestion that it might be rough comfrey, an Old World spec=
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v>
<br></div><div>Here&#39;s another botanical puzzler which will no doubt be =
obvious to NS natives. There is a peculiarly fleshy weedy plant which grows=
 in ditches such as the canals feeding the Annapolis River at Bridgetown. I=
t&#39;s tall, grows in dense colonies, and hasn&#39;t flowered yet. The ste=
ms are speckled and the leaves are broad and rounded. It has an &quot;invas=
ive alien&quot; feel to it, at least to this observer.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Any ideas?</div><div><br></div><div>Larry Ayers</div></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, J=
un 27, 2013 at 10:26 PM, James W. Wolford <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca" target=3D"_blank">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>=
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 I&#39;ll bet Jane is right about you probably having common comfrey, Symph=
ytum officinale, which is currently in bloom along our rail trail in Wolfvi=
lle. =A0We also have a less common second species, rough comfrey, S. asperu=
m. =A0Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.<br>
<div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:=
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le=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica">Dave&amp;Jane Schlosberg &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca" target=3D"_blank">dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca</=
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