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--Apple-Mail-47-220293870 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed One thing I can add here, and I have seen this for cheetahs on documentary films: sometimes a cheetah will appear to be playing with its caught-and-released Thompson's gazelle, when in reality it was "teaching" a young cheetah or a litter how to hunt. In such cases the young cheetahs might not be obvious to an onlooker, and the behaviour could be miscontrued as "unnecessarily torturing its prey" -- of course, such misconstruction might be influenced by one's biases -- who can claim freedom from all agendas? Cheers from Jim in Wolfville. Begin forwarded message: > From: Andrew Horn <aghorn@dal.ca> > Date: July 11, 2013 6:13:52 PM ADT > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Human-animal relations workshop > Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > > Hi Marian, > > I'm afraid lots of wild predators do play with their prey (yes, > including dolphins in the wild). I don't know for sure, but would > guess that it's also the natural behaviour of the wild cats that > are the ancestors of the domestic cat. Some species (such as > cheetahs, I think?) don't do it, but that's likely more to save > energy and not get hurt than to avoid letting the prey escape -- a > gazelle with a good bite to the neck isn't going far. > > Cruel stuff, though easily curtailed by keep our valued companions > indoors. > > Cheers, > Andy > > On Jul 11, 2013, at 3:19 PM, fulton.harding@ns.sympatico.ca wrote: > >> I was wondering the same thing. Any video I have seen of a wild >> cat of any kind hunting the kill is quick. If you are hunting to >> survive I expect you don't take any chances on the prey getting away. >> >> Alex Horne - were those dolphins in the wild or were they in >> captivity? >> >> Marian Fulton >> Hantsport >> >> > --Apple-Mail-47-220293870 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "> One thing I can add here, and I have seen this for cheetahs on = documentary films: sometimes a cheetah will appear to be playing with = its caught-and-released Thompson's gazelle, when in reality it was = "teaching" a young cheetah or a litter how to hunt. In such cases = the young cheetahs might not be obvious to an onlooker, and the = behaviour could be miscontrued as "unnecessarily torturing its prey" -- = of course, such misconstruction might be influenced by one's biases -- = who can claim freedom from all agendas? Cheers from Jim in = Wolfville. <br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>From: = </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica">Andrew Horn <<a = href=3D"mailto:aghorn@dal.ca">aghorn@dal.ca</a>></font></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Date: = </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica">July 11, 2013 6:13:52 PM ADT</font></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>To: </b></font><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><a = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font>= </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>Re: [NatureNS] Human-animal = relations workshop</b></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Reply-To: </b></font><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><a = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font>= </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> Hi = Marian,<div><br></div><div>I'm afraid lots of wild predators do play = with their prey (yes, including dolphins in the wild). I don't know for = sure, but would guess that it's also the natural behaviour of the wild = cats that are the ancestors of the domestic cat. Some species (such as = cheetahs, I think?) don't do it, but that's likely more to save energy = and not get hurt than to avoid letting the prey escape -- a gazelle with = a good bite to the neck isn't going far.</div><div><br></div><div>Cruel = stuff, though easily curtailed by keep our valued companions = indoors.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Andy</div><div><br><di= v><div>On Jul 11, 2013, at 3:19 PM, <a = href=3D"mailto:fulton.harding@ns.sympatico.ca">fulton.harding@ns.sympatico= .ca</a> wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: = separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: = normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: = 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: = auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div><div>I = was wondering the same thing. Any video I have seen of a wild cat = of any kind hunting the kill is quick. If you are hunting to = survive I expect you don't take any chances on the prey getting = away.</div><div> </div><div>Alex Horne - were those dolphins in the = wild or were they in captivity?</div><div> </div><div>Marian = Fulton </div><div>Hantsport </div><div> </div><div> </= div></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote></div><br></bod= y></html>= --Apple-Mail-47-220293870--
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