[NatureNS] comment re Empty Forests

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Hi Steve and all

This article does not give amounts of contaminants but brings up how
the beeswax factor can lead to the bioaccumulation of some pesticide
residues:

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/compound-eye/2011/08/11/organic-honey-is-a-sweet-illusion/

Hope it does not turn you off honey.
Nancy

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Stephen R. Shaw <srshaw@dal.ca> wrote:
> Thanks, Lance, for the as-usual helpful link.
>
> Reading the paper Lance provided puts the kybosh on any attempt to assert a
> 1-to-1 relationship such as "pesticides were actually directly responsible
> for 'causing colony collapse disorder'", more or less the original claim.
> Several factors have been identified that interact in ways that are not well
> understood yet. Ominously, these may not act in a simple additive manner and
> such non-linear interaction is not tested in approving the pesticides, as
> the paper indicates.
>
> At the same time, the authors identified multiple insecticides, fungicides
> and acaricides (used by the beekeepers themselves to control mites) in the
> pollen collected by bees.  You'd have to be sceptic of tobacco executive
> magnitude not to be alarmed that the bees collected pollen containing at
> least 35 different pesticides in the study, some at very high levels.  The
> implication that some of these are important in the interactions underlying
> CCD is not well understood yet, but is highly suggestive.
>
> Now I'm wondering what's in the honey that I've been eating. Does anybody
> monitor pesticide levels in honey, or honey from different locations?  The
> pesticide-loaded pollen came from plants that the bees also visited for
> nectar, so that is presumably loaded with the same pesticides, which in turn
> should end up in the honey.  Are there any beekeepers or others on this list
> who might know about the levels of such chemicals in honey?  Is some local
> NS honey better, by virtue of a lower pesticide load?
>
> Steve (Halifax)
>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Quoting "Laviolette, Lance (EXP)" <lance.laviolette@lmco.com>:
>
>> Hi David and others,
>>
>> The recent research that Mary was referring to was conducted by University
>> of Maryland researchers. It was just published in PLOS ONE and can be read
>> in full at the following link:
>>
>> http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0070182
>>
>> A quote attributed to the study's senior author is telling:
>> "We don't think of fungicides as having a negative effect on bees, because
>> they're not designed to kill insects," vanEngelsdorp stated. Current federal
>> regulations limit the use of insecticides during the time periods when
>> pollinating insects are foraging, "but there are no such restrictions on
>> fungicides, so you'll often see fungicide applications going on while bees
>> are foraging on the crop. This finding suggests that we have to reconsider
>> that policy."
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Lance
>
>
>

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