[NatureNS] Seed Treatments was "comment re Empty Forests"

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Hello Mary
This year we bought OSC brand pole bean seed. In previous years, we have =
been saving our own seeds from the beans.
So that does complicate matters. However we have a neighbor who bought =
Halifax Seed brand; and she has the same problem.
We will have to contact the company to see what treatment they might =
give the seed.
But it would seem foolish for a seed company to treat the seed =
(knowingly) with something which causes reduced yield.
Yours
Dave Schlosberg

From: Mary Macaulay=20
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:12 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] comment re Empty Forests

Was your bean seed pretreated? If so the seed treatment may have been a =
systemic pesticide which persists into the plant tissue, nectar and =
pollen.

Mary Macaulay, P.Eng.=20
Executive Director
Atlantic Concrete Association
www.atlanticconcrete.ca
Office: 902-443-4456
Cell: 902-489-2000
Fax: 902-404-8074

On 2013-08-15, at 11:02 PM, "Dave&Jane Schlosberg" =
<dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:


  Here in my downtown Dartmouth pole bean patch there is at most only =
one bumble bee working at any one time. Whereas, in the past, many bees =
and wasps would have been present. The pole bean pollination is the =
worst I can remember in almost 30 years of gardening. Maybe only one in =
five bean flowers have been pollinated so far.

  Yet my blueberry crop (earlier in the season) was reasonably well =
pollinated.

  Yours
  Dave Schlosberg

  From: James W. Wolford=20
  Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 5:06 PM
  To: NatureNS=20
  Subject: [NatureNS] comment re Empty Forests

  Here is a relevant note I wrote myself on Aug. 7:=20

  AUG. 7, 2013 - I walked along the Wolfville Rail Trail this afternoon, =
as I often do, and noted just a few butterflies (mostly whites) flitting =
among the huge array of plants in flower, especially Queen Anne's lace, =
common tansy, knapweed, etc., from Wolfville Harbour but especially from =
Elm Street out to the Acadia Arena.  BUT what really struck me was how =
very few other insects I am noticing  on the flowers as I walk.  =
Thinking back a couple of decades (or more?), I used to see a wide =
variety of insects and spiders on the flowers, and now I am seeing few =
to none, plus the few butterflies.  Has anyone noticed the same thing?  =
And does anyone know of a database somewhere out there in our world of =
information that has decades of data like we have for breeding birds?

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<DIV>Hello Mary</DIV>
<DIV>This year we bought OSC brand pole bean seed. In previous years, we =
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been saving our own seeds from the beans.</DIV>
<DIV>So that does complicate matters. However we have a neighbor who =
bought=20
Halifax Seed brand; and she has the same problem.</DIV>
<DIV>We will have to contact the company to see what treatment they =
might give=20
the seed.</DIV>
<DIV>But it would seem foolish for a seed company to treat the seed =
(knowingly)=20
with something which causes reduced yield.</DIV>
<DIV>Yours</DIV>
<DIV>Dave Schlosberg</DIV>
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<DIV>Was your bean seed pretreated? If so the seed treatment may have =
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systemic pesticide which persists into the plant tissue, nectar and=20
pollen.<BR><BR>Mary Macaulay, P.Eng.=20
<DIV>Executive Director</DIV>
<DIV>Atlantic Concrete Association</DIV>
<DIV><A =
href=3D"http://www.atlanticconcrete.ca">www.atlanticconcrete.ca</A></DIV>=

<DIV>Office: 902-443-4456</DIV>
<DIV>Cell: 902-489-2000</DIV>
<DIV>Fax: 902-404-8074</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR>On 2013-08-15, at 11:02 PM, "Dave&amp;Jane Schlosberg" &lt;<A=20
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  <DIV>Here in my downtown Dartmouth pole bean patch there is at most =
only one=20
  bumble bee working at any one time. Whereas, in the past, many bees =
and wasps=20
  would have been present. The pole bean pollination is the worst I can =
remember=20
  in almost 30 years of gardening. Maybe only one in five bean flowers =
have been=20
  pollinated so far.</DIV>
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  <DIV>Yet my blueberry crop (earlier in the season) was reasonably well =

  pollinated.</DIV>
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  <DIV>Yours</DIV>
  <DIV>Dave Schlosberg</DIV>
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