Army worms:Re: [NatureNS] more on tent caterpillars vs. fall webworms

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Hi Angus & All,                    Aug 17, 2013
    Although they are abundant here infrequently (the last 30 yrs ago ?) =
the genuine common name here is also Army Worm. No common name of folk =
origin will tack tent onto something that does not make tents.
    Until you brought this up, I had forgotten the connection between =
the two names. I notice on the internet that there are several =
armyworms; M. disstria not among them.
Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Angus MacLean=20
  To: naturens=20
  Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 11:35 AM
  Subject: RE: [NatureNS] more on tent caterpillars vs. fall webworms -- =
was re spanworms -- was Choke Cherries


  I would like to add that the Forest Tent Caterpillars are known as =
"Army Worms" in the west, primarily Sask & Manitoba. If you have not =
encountered them when abundant, it is difficult to conceive the =
spectacles of them covering buildings, roads, & "marching" across crop =
fields.
  Angus
  =20


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  From: jimwolford@eastlink.ca
  Subject: [NatureNS] more on tent caterpillars vs. fall webworms -- was =
re spanworms -- was Choke Cherries
  Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 01:37:00 -0300
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca

  At the risk of confusing you readers further: Of our two species of =
tent caterpillars, only one is a tent-former.  Malacosoma americanum is =
the Eastern Tent Caterpillar, and the caterpillars communally spin a =
tent of silk in a crotch between two or more branches, not in the =
foliage.  But the Forest Tent Caterpillar, Malacosoma disstria, is =
mostly found as solitary larvae; however, it/they are known to march =
communally and to aggregate on tree-trunks, but never form a tent or =
silken nest.=20


  Cheers from Jim the Other, in Wolfville.



  Jim Edsall wrote on Aug. 15/13:


    No. Tent Caterpillers occur in spring and  early summer, the two =
species are Malacasoma disstria and Malacasoma americana. They are =
Lasiocampids closely related  to the silkmoths. The Fall Webworm occurs =
in  late summer. the species is Hyphantria cunea a Tiger Moth =
(Arctiidae)

    Jim Edsall=20
    Dartmouth, N.S.
    check out my website at=20
    http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/jim.edsall/


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Angus &amp; All,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Aug 17,=20
2013</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Although they are abundant =
here=20
infrequently (the last 30 yrs ago ?) the genuine common name here is =
also Army=20
Worm. No common name of folk origin will tack tent onto something that =
does not=20
make tents.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Until you brought this up, I =
had=20
forgotten&nbsp;the connection between the two names. I notice on the =
internet=20
that there are several armyworms; M. disstria not among =
them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</FONT></DIV>
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  MacLean</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 17, 2013 =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [NatureNS] more on =
tent=20
  caterpillars vs. fall webworms -- was re spanworms -- was Choke =
Cherries</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr>I would like to add that the Forest Tent Caterpillars =
are known=20
  as "Army Worms" in the west, primarily Sask &amp; Manitoba.&nbsp;If =
you have=20
  not encountered them when abundant, it is difficult to conceive the =
spectacles=20
  of them covering buildings, roads, &amp; "marching" across crop=20
  fields.<BR>Angus<BR>&nbsp;<BR>
  <DIV>
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  From: <A=20
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ect:=20
  [NatureNS] more on tent caterpillars vs. fall webworms -- was re =
spanworms --=20
  was Choke Cherries<BR>Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 01:37:00 -0300<BR>To:=20
  naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR><BR>At the risk of confusing you readers =
further:=20
  Of our two species of tent caterpillars, only one is a tent-former.=20
  &nbsp;Malacosoma americanum is the Eastern Tent Caterpillar, and the=20
  caterpillars communally spin a tent of silk in a crotch between two or =
more=20
  branches, not in the foliage. &nbsp;But the Forest Tent Caterpillar,=20
  Malacosoma disstria, is mostly found as solitary larvae; however, =
it/they are=20
  known to march communally and to aggregate on tree-trunks, but never =
form a=20
  tent or silken nest.=20
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Cheers from Jim the Other, in Wolfville.<BR>
  <DIV><BR>
  <DIV>Jim Edsall wrote on Aug. 15/13:</DIV>
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    <DIV>No. Tent Caterpillers&nbsp;occur in spring and&nbsp; early =
summer, the=20
    two species are&nbsp;Malacasoma disstria and Malacasoma americana. =
They are=20
    Lasiocampids closely related&nbsp;&nbsp;to the silkmoths.&nbsp;The =
Fall=20
    Webworm&nbsp;occurs in &nbsp;late summer. the species is Hyphantria =
cunea a=20
    Tiger Moth (Arctiidae)</DIV>
    <DIV><BR>Jim Edsall<SPAN=20
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N.S.<BR>check out=20
    my website at<SPAN =
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    href=3D"http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/jim.edsall/"=20
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