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mentary evidence that =E2=80=8E in the 1920s Fernald collected as far east =
as Chester on the South Shore, and may have gone as far as Halifax, b=
ut not farther east . Of course he collected extensively on Digby Neck whil=
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vid & Alison Webster</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, August 31, 2013 1=
9:02</div><div><b>To: </b>naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</div><div><b>Reply To: </=
b>naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</div><div><b>Subject: </b>Escape of the Native: R=
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<div>Hi Sherman & All, =20
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Aug 31, 2013</div>
<div> And that comment in Roland & Smith,"doubtfully=20
native to N.S." , is in turn a contraction of Roland's (1944) "This=20
climbing plant, used as a cover for fences and walls, often escapes to wast=
e=20
places and persists on rich river bottoms in the Central and Southern parts=
of=20
the province."</div>
<div> </div>
<div> I recall collecting in the early 50's and thin=
king,=20
based on distributions north of the Canso-Digby line, that Dr. Roland was f=
ull=20
of beans but once a guess is enshrined in print one must move hea=
ven=20
and earth to replace it by a second educated guess. </div>
<div> </div>
<div> True it was used as an ornamental and true it does=20
sometimes escape to waste places but why did it then migrate to undist=
urbed=20
habitat, sometimes far from settlement, preferentially north of the=20
Canso-Digby line ?</div>
<div> </div>
<div> To back up to the start, it is native to North Amer=
ica.=20
</div>
<div> </div>
<div> In Gray's Manual 7ed (Robinson & Fernald, =
1908)=20
the range included N.B but not N.S. They note; "also cultivated for arbors =
and=20
freely escaping".</div>
<div> </div>
<div> In the period leading up to the 8th edition in 1950=
,=20
Fernald collected extensively in N.S. but, so far as I know (can anyone ver=
ify=20
this ?), his activity was entirely or almost entirely south of the=20
Digby-Canso line. The 8th ed. did not include N.S. within the range, perhap=
s=20
after having consulted Roland's Flora. </div>
<div> </div>
<div> In a way the debate is a tempest on a postage stamp=
;=20
recognized as native in N.B. for more than 100 years but stuck as perhaps n=
ot=20
native in nearby N.S. I think it is both native and ornamental escape but i=
n the=20
end the current behavior of the plant is all that matters.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Y.t. Dave Webster, Kentville</div>
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b>From:</b>=20
<a title=3D"shermwms@eastlink.ca" href=3D"mailto:shermwms@eastlink.ca">Sh=
erman=20
Williams</a> </div>
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"naturens@chebucto.=
ns.ca" href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a> =
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<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 31, 2013 3:=
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PM</div>
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] re "Wild=20
Cucumber"</div>
<div><br></div>Zinck is probably reflecting the comment found in Roland a=
nd=20
Smith's, The Flora of Nova Scotia, "doubtfully native to N.S." &nbs=
p;=20
Taxonomy of Vascular Plants by Lawrence, refers to it, (<i>Echinocystis</=
i>=20
(<i>lobata</i>)) as one species representing=20
the Cucurbitaceae family in the U.S. Other reference=
s=20
show it as being native to North America, e.g. Wildflowers of Ontar=
io.
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<div>On Aug 31, 2013, at 10:59 AM, James W. Wolford wrote:</div><br class=
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<div style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-=
line-break: after-white-space">In=20
answer to Richard's question, Zinck (1998) says that wild cucumber is=20
"probably not native", is often cultivated to cover fences and walls, g=
rows=20
luxuriantly in dumps, and may become a troublesome weed. Its rang=
e is=20
across southern Canada and south to Florida and Texas. Cheers fro=
m Jim=20
in Wolfville.<br>
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