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--Apple-Mail-150-254582473 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Nancy, I am quite confident about my ID of Dave Patriquin's spider as Araneus diadematus, not the species you suggest here, and I didn't want to go to the trouble of registering to make a comment on BugGuide. The photos you submitted look more to me, without looking at details like the pattern of the eyes, like a Dolomedes species in family Pisauridae (nursery-web spiders), a fishing spider or raft spider or Jesus Christ spider or wharf spider. They can be very large and fearsome-looking and fast-moving, and usually occur near shores of fast streams or lakes. There are several possible species, and many in this family have interesting habits, like making a web just for the hatching stage and first few days of the babies, after the female carries around a big egg-sac until just before hatching. They exhibit courtship involving a "gift" from the male, and the "gift" may or may not have anything inside the silk wrapping. Cheers from Jim in Wolfville. Begin forwarded message: > From: nancy dowd <nancypdowd@gmail.com> > Date: September 25, 2013 2:00:06 PM ADT > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Spider ID > Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > > It looks like an Orb Weaver (Araneus spp). It may be this one > recently IDed for me on BugGuide as Araneus saevus (check out the > other better images there): http://bugguide.net/node/view/846282/ > bgimage > > Note the comments below where the species of Araneus in NS are > mentioned. They would be a good place to start comparing or try > posting your beautiful photo for ID on the site. > > Hope this helps. > > Nancy > On 2013-09-25, at 1:26 PM, David Patriquin <patriqui@dal.ca> wrote: > >> >> Here's one I could use some help with: >> >> http://versicolor.ca/various/spider14Sep2013.jpg >> >> In Williams Lake backlands, 14 Sep. 2013 >> >> >> Any recommendations for guides, other resources to ID spiders? >> >> -Thanks, David P >> >> >> Quoting "James W. Wolford" <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>: >> >>> Yes, most of my books call it just what you did, Richard. >>> Cheers from Jim >>> >>> On 24-Sep-13, at 10:17 PM, Richard Stern wrote: >>> >>>> This rather spectacular spider has been making a home in a web >>>> between two bushes in our backyard recently. Including legs >>>> it's about 5cm. in length. Is it a Black and Yellow Argiope? >>>> >>>> http://richard-s.smugmug.com/Birds/Current-Birds/i-LRNvfDn >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ################# >>>> Richard Stern, >>>> Port Williams, NS, Canada >>>> sternrichard@gmail.com >>>> ################### >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > --Apple-Mail-150-254582473 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "> Nancy, I am quite confident about my ID of Dave Patriquin's spider as = Araneus diadematus, not the species you suggest here, and I didn't want = to go to the trouble of registering to make a comment on = BugGuide. <div><br></div><div>The photos you submitted look more to = me, without looking at details like the pattern of the eyes, like a = Dolomedes species in family Pisauridae (nursery-web spiders), a fishing = spider or raft spider or Jesus Christ spider or wharf spider. They = can be very large and fearsome-looking and fast-moving, and usually = occur near shores of fast streams or lakes. There are several = possible species, and many in this family have interesting habits, like = making a web just for the hatching stage and first few days of the = babies, after the female carries around a big egg-sac until just before = hatching. They exhibit courtship involving a "gift" from the male, = and the "gift" may or may not have anything inside the silk = wrapping.<div><br></div><div>Cheers from Jim in = Wolfville.<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>From: = </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica">nancy dowd <<a = href=3D"mailto:nancypdowd@gmail.com">nancypdowd@gmail.com</a>></font></= div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">September 25, 2013 2:00:06 PM = ADT</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><a = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font>= </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>Re: [NatureNS] Spider = ID</b></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>Reply-To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><a = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font>= </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">It looks like an Orb Weaver (Araneus spp). It may be = this one recently IDed for me on BugGuide as Araneus saevus (check out = the other better images there): <a = href=3D"http://bugguide.net/node/view/846282/bgimage">http://bugguide.net/= node/view/846282/bgimage</a></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: = 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Note the comments below where = the species of Araneus in NS are mentioned.<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>They would be a good place = to start comparing or try posting your beautiful photo for ID on the = site.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">Hope this helps.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: = 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Nancy</div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">On 2013-09-25, at 1:26 PM, David Patriquin <<a = href=3D"mailto:patriqui@dal.ca">patriqui@dal.ca</a>> wrote:</div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <blockquote = type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">Here's one I could use some help with:</div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a = href=3D"http://versicolor.ca/various/spider14Sep2013.jpg">http://versicolo= r.ca/various/spider14Sep2013.jpg</a></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: = 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">In Williams Lake backlands, 14 = Sep. 2013</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Any = recommendations for guides, other resources<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>to ID spiders?</div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">-Thanks, = David P</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Quoting = "James W. Wolford" <<a = href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>>:</di= v><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <blockquote = type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Yes, most of my books call it = just what you did, Richard.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> = </span>Cheers<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>from = Jim</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">On 24-Sep-13, at 10:17 PM, Richard Stern = wrote:</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> = <blockquote type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">This rather spectacular = spider has been making a home in a web<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>between two bushes in our = backyard recently. Including legs it's<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>about 5cm. in length.<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Is it a Black and Yellow = Argiope?</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><a = href=3D"http://richard-s.smugmug.com/Birds/Current-Birds/i-LRNvfDn">http:/= /richard-s.smugmug.com/Birds/Current-Birds/i-LRNvfDn</a></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = ">Richard</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">--<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">#################</div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Richard = Stern,</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Port Williams, NS, = Canada</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a = href=3D"mailto:sternrichard@gmail.com">sternrichard@gmail.com</a></div><di= v style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">###################</div> </blockquote><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = min-height: 14px; "><br></div> </blockquote><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: = 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = min-height: 14px; "><br></div> </blockquote><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = min-height: 14px; "><br></div> = </blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail-150-254582473--
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