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Thanks Eric for the directions below, though it wasn't my intention to "upb=
raid" you, just to have the best guidance.=20
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The bird was either not present or out of sight when we first got there aro=
und 1 to 2 PM. After searching around awhile for a better view of the golf =
course and a bit of Chebogue Point, we stopped for coffee with a friend of =
ours, Diane MacDonald.=20
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We checked the internet and discovered the bird had been seen this morning.=
Diane's husband is a goose fan and so we got some leads to check out. We f=
irst gave the golf course another look with no luck around 3:20 PM. Then be=
fore we got to the next spot, Diane called us saying she had seen a goose =
on the golf course. Heading back with with fingers crossed but half expecti=
ng a Canada Goose, we were confronted with the Bean Goose moving steadily t=
oward the green Eric mentions. Several people pulled up and had excellent l=
ooks from 3:40 to 4 PM, when the goose moved behind the raised green and co=
uld no longer be seen from the road.=20
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Because of the undulating terrain, it can stay out of sight quite easily, s=
o if it is not visible, other angles and/or patience may be required. It be=
ing alone, no size comparsion was possible.
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The Stokes Field Guide to the Birds of North America also covers both speci=
es of Bean Gooses (with photos), but also is West Coast oriented. The only =
rossicus birds are distant (for the head) flight photos. Illustrations of r=
ossicus birds seem to vary. Beaman & Madge's The Handbook of Bird Indentifi=
cation show one that resembles the Taiga Bean Goose in Stokes, while Mullar=
ney, Svensson, Zetterstrom & Grant's Birds of Europe shows one the resemble=
s the Tundra Bean Goose (serrirostris race) in Stokes. The editions I have =
are pre-split, the Handbook being 1998, so maybe not so attentive to bill s=
tructure. I am more inclined to follow the Birds of Europe (2004) which is =
a stunning field guide. Without knowing for certain how they look, I am inc=
lined to at least say this bird does seem to resemble the Taiga Bean Goose =
more than the serrirostris Tundra shown in Stokes or the rossicus Tundra sh=
own in The Birds of Europe. I have not seen others' photos, but did zoom in=
on some of those I was able to get. A tough call indeed. Cheers, Larry
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To: NS-RBA@yahoogroups.com; naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
From: E.Mills@Dal.Ca
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2013 11:19:46 +0000
Subject: [NS-RBA] Bean Goose location
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Larry Neily has upbraided me for not giving a detailed location for t=
he Yarmouth Bean Goose.
Drive S on Main Street, Yarmouth, for about a km from the central business=
district (Main Street becomes Chebogue Road). The golf course will be on y=
our left. Park opposite the path that leads to the clubhouse. The goose has=
been feeding in easy sight of the road just to the east on the closest gre=
en. It may not be necessary to get out out of your car to see it.=20
Google Earth has very good detail.
The two species of Bean Geese are not well treated in most of the standard =
field guides, including Sibley and earlier editions of the National Geograp=
hic field guide, which treat them as subspecies. However, the 6th edition =
of the National Geographic Field Guide (2011) has a modern treatment, altho=
ugh it is biased a bit toward W Coast USA.=20
Eric L. Mills
Lower Rose Bay, NS
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>Thanks Eric for the directions b=
elow, though it wasn't my intention to "upbraid" you, just to have the=
best guidance. <BR> <BR>The bird was either not present or out of sig=
ht when we first got there around 1 to 2 PM. After searching around awhile =
for a better view of the golf course and a bit of Chebogue Point, we s=
topped for coffee with a friend of ours, Diane MacDonald. <BR> <BR>We =
checked the internet and discovered the bird had been seen this morning. Di=
ane's husband is a goose fan and so we got some leads to check out. We=
first gave the golf course another look with no luck around 3:20 PM. Then =
before we got to the next spot, Diane called us saying she had seen a=
goose on the golf course. Heading back with with fingers crossed but =
half expecting a Canada Goose, we were confronted with the Bean Goose movin=
g steadily toward the green Eric mentions. Several people pulled up and had=
excellent looks from 3:40 to 4 PM, when the goose moved behind the ra=
ised green and could no longer be seen from the road. <BR> <BR>Be=
cause of the undulating terrain, it can stay out of sight quite easily, so =
if it is not visible, other angles and/or patience may be required. It bein=
g alone, no size comparsion was possible.<BR> <BR>The Stokes Field Gui=
de to the Birds of North America also covers both species of Bean Gooses (w=
ith photos), but also is West Coast oriented. The only <em>rossicus </em>bi=
rds are distant (for the head) flight photos. Illustrations of <em>ros=
sicus</em> birds seem to vary. Beaman & Madge's The Handbook of Bird In=
dentification show one that resembles the Taiga Bean Goose in Stokes, while=
Mullarney, Svensson, Zetterstrom & Grant's Birds of Europe shows one t=
he resembles the Tundra Bean Goose (<em>serrirostris</em> race) in Stokes. =
The editions I have are pre-split, the Handbook being 1998, so maybe not&nb=
sp;so attentive to bill structure. I am more inclined to follow the Bi=
rds of Europe (2004) which is a stunning field guide. Without knowing for c=
ertain how they look, I am inclined to at least say this bird doe=
s seem to resemble the Taiga Bean Goose more than the <em>serrirostris</em>=
Tundra shown in Stokes or the <em>rossicus</em> Tundra shown in The Birds =
of Europe. I have not seen others' photos, but did zoom in on some of those=
I was able to get. A tough call indeed. Cheers, Larry<br> <BR><div><h=
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Larry Neily has upbraided me for not giving a detailed location for t=
he Yarmouth Bean Goose.<br>
<br>
Drive S on Main Street, Yarmouth, for about a km from the central business=
district (Main Street becomes Chebogue Road). The golf course will be on y=
our left. Park opposite the path that leads to the clubhouse. The goose has=
been feeding in easy sight of the road just to the east on the closest gre=
en. It may not be necessary to get out out of your car to see it. <br>
<br>
Google Earth has very good detail.<br>
<br>
The two species of Bean Geese are not well treated in most of the standard =
field guides, including Sibley and earlier editions of the National Geograp=
hic field guide, which treat them as subspecies. However, the 6th edition =
of the National Geographic Field Guide (2011) has a modern treatment, altho=
ugh it is biased a bit toward W Coast USA. <br>
<br>
Eric L. Mills<br>
Lower Rose Bay, NS<BR>
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