[NatureNS] Pine Siskins & Niger seed

From: Mike McCall <frogmore@xcountry.tv>
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 07:41:53 -0400
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My niger and black sunflower feeders are about 4 feet apart and the =
Goldfinches
(of which there are not many these days) attend both feeders. When the =
goldfinches
decide to feed on sunflower, the Chickadees flee. They retreat to the
bushes and only return when the vandals have left the scene.

Mike McCall


On Feb 4, 2014, at 7:51 PM, Andy Dean <aadean@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Jim et al,
> In the past I have used Niger seeds but I discovered after a while =
that the finches were just as happy, and possibly happier, with =
black-oil Sunflower seed which are much cheaper....maybe that would work =
for you.
> =20
> Andy  Dean
> 86 Baden Powell drive,
> Kentville,  N.S.
> B4N 5P5
> =20
> (902) 678-6243
> aadean@ns.sympatico.ca
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James W. Wolford
> To: NatureNS
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 5:55 PM
> Subject: [NatureNS] Pine Siskins & Niger seed
>=20
> I too have seen almost no pine siskins for a long time (with rare =
exceptions and just tiny numbers), and my Niger seed has been eaten very =
rarely; but a neighbor of mine just a couple of lots to the north had =
lots of siskins and redpolls with goldfinches last winter? or the winter =
before, and I had very few of them with few Niger eaters. And for some =
reason my yard just doesn't attract large numbers of goldfinches.  Jim =
in Wolfville.
>=20
> Begin forwarded message:
>=20
>> From: Shouty McShoutsalot <desolatechair@gmail.com>
>> Date: February 4, 2014 10:12:24 AM AST
>> To: naturens <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Pine Siskins
>> Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>>=20
>> Bought a 40 pound bag of Nyjer a few years ago and still have half of =
it.  With the exception of Canada Jays, which I've never had, compared =
to say 5 years ago the above are all quite rare in my back yard as well =
these days.  Haven't seen a Sisken in several years.
>>=20
>>=20
>> On 4 February 2014 07:21, John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> =
wrote:
>> Ten years ago, siskins were a winter regular down here on Wyman Road. =
 Haven=92t seen one here for three or four years.=20
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> One more species, I fear, to join Canada jays, evening grosbeaks, =
boreal chickadees, purple finches, house sparrows  =85=20
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Gee, when I was really young, even pine grosbeaks ere not unusual!
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> And cardinals and turkey vultures are normal visitors down here.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> The times, they are a changin=92.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of James Hirtle
>> Sent: February-03-14 10:09 PM
>> To: Naturens Naturens
>> Subject: [NatureNS] Pine Siskins
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> I received an email today from John Glanville of Petite Riviere =
letting me know that seven pine siskins had arrived from nowhere.  I =
personally have not seen a pine siskin myself all winter with a lot of =
birding.  Hopefully they will hang in that area until the weekend. =20
>> =20
>> James R. Hirtle
>> Bridgewater
>> =20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> --=20
>> Jamie Simpson
>> Hantsport, NS
>=20
>=20


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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dwindows-1252"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">My =
niger and black sunflower feeders are about 4 feet apart and the =
Goldfinches<div>(of which there are not many these days) attend both =
feeders. When the goldfinches</div><div>decide to feed on sunflower, the =
Chickadees flee. They retreat to the</div><div>bushes and only return =
when the vandals have left the scene.</div><div><br></div><div>Mike =
McCall</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 4, 2014, at 7:51 =
PM, Andy Dean &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:aadean@ns.sympatico.ca">aadean@ns.sympatico.ca</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;"><div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Jim et =
al,</font></div><div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">In the past I have =
used Niger seeds but I discovered after a while that the finches were =
just as happy, and possibly happier,&nbsp;with black-oil Sunflower seed =
which are much cheaper....maybe that would work for =
you.</font></div><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">Andy&nbsp; Dean<br>86 Baden Powell =
drive,<br>Kentville,&nbsp; N.S.<br>B4N =
5P5</font></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">(902) 678-6243<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:aadean@ns.sympatico.ca">aadean@ns.sympatico.ca</a><br></fon=
t></div><blockquote style=3D"border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; =
padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;">----- =
Original Message -----</div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: =
normal; font-family: arial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); =
background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial =
initial;"><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"jimwolford@eastlink.ca" =
href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">James W. Wolford</a></div><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: =
arial;"><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">NatureNS</a></div><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: =
arial;"><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, February 04, 2014 =
5:55 PM</div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: =
arial;"><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[NatureNS] Pine Siskins =
&amp; Niger seed</div><div><br></div>I too have seen almost no pine =
siskins for a long time (with rare exceptions and just tiny numbers), =
and my Niger seed has been eaten very rarely; but a neighbor of mine =
just a couple of lots to the north had lots of siskins and redpolls with =
goldfinches last winter? or the winter before, and I had very few of =
them with few Niger eaters. And for some reason my yard just doesn't =
attract large numbers of goldfinches. &nbsp;Jim in =
Wolfville.<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Helvetica" =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: =
Helvetica;"><b>From:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b></font><font size=3D"3" =
face=3D"Helvetica" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: =
Helvetica;">Shouty McShoutsalot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:desolatechair@gmail.com">desolatechair@gmail.com</a>&gt;</f=
ont></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Helvetica" =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: =
Helvetica;"><b>Date:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b></font><font size=3D"3" =
face=3D"Helvetica" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: =
Helvetica;">February 4, 2014 10:12:24 AM AST</font></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Helvetica" =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: =
Helvetica;"><b>To:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b></font><font size=3D"3" =
face=3D"Helvetica" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: =
Helvetica;">naturens &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>&gt;</f=
ont></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Helvetica" =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: =
Helvetica;"><b>Subject:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b></font><font size=3D"3" =
face=3D"Helvetica" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: =
Helvetica;"><b>Re: [NatureNS] Pine Siskins</b></font></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Helvetica" =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: =
Helvetica;"><b>Reply-To:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b></font><font size=3D"3" =
face=3D"Helvetica" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: =
Helvetica;"><a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font>=
</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Bought a 40 pound bag of Nyjer a few years ago and still =
have half of it. &nbsp;With the exception of Canada Jays, which I've =
never had, compared to say 5 years ago the above are all quite rare in =
my back yard as well&nbsp;these days. &nbsp;Haven't seen a Sisken in =
several years.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On 4 February 2014 07:21, John and Nhung<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca" =
target=3D"_blank">nhungjohn@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); =
border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; margin: 0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div lang=3D"EN-CA" vlink=3D"purple" =
link=3D"blue"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Ten =
years ago, siskins were a winter regular down here on Wyman Road.&nbsp; =
Haven=92t seen one here for three or four =
years.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
font-size: 11pt;"><u></u><u></u></span>&nbsp;</p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">One more species, I fear, to =
join Canada jays, evening grosbeaks, boreal chickadees, purple finches, =
house sparrows&nbsp; =85&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: =
11pt;"><u></u><u></u></span>&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
font-size: 11pt;">Gee, when I was really young, even pine grosbeaks ere =
not unusual!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
font-size: 11pt;"><u></u><u></u></span>&nbsp;</p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">And cardinals and turkey =
vultures are normal visitors down here.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: =
11pt;"><u></u><u></u></span>&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
font-size: 11pt;">The times, they are a =
changin=92.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
font-size: 11pt;"><u></u><u></u></span>&nbsp;</p><div><div =
style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; =
padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);"><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: =
Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
 style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" =
target=3D"_blank">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" =
target=3D"_blank">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>James =
Hirtle<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>February-03-14 10:09 =
PM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Naturens =
Naturens<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[NatureNS] Pine =
Siskins<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div class=3D"im"><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u>&nbsp;</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; font-size: 24pt;">I received an email today from John =
Glanville of Petite Riviere letting me know that seven pine siskins had =
arrived from nowhere.&nbsp; I personally have not seen a pine siskin =
myself all winter with a lot of birding.&nbsp; Hopefully they will hang =
in that area until the weekend.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br>&nbsp;<br></span><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 24pt;">James R. =
Hirtle</span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><br></span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
font-size: 24pt;">Bridgewater</span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><br></span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
font-size: 24pt;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div=
><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>--<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div>Jamie Simpson<br></div>Hantsport, =
NS<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></blockquote></div><br =
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