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county.<br>&nbsp=3B<br>There are some other pr --001a11c2c1045b414d04f6538f8f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi folks, Among folks on this list, and birders everywhere, there seems to be: - a growing feeling that eBird is the *best place* for our observations to end up at this point - a feeling that there are some *obstacles *to efficient contribution of data - some are things we just aren't used to and some are things that need solutions I do not know if this is something that falls to the NS Bird Society or just bluenose birders in general. Under either scenario, I would like to suggest that we do two things that could make a big impact on what happens with our bird observations in the coming years, and thereby, in theory our contribution to bird research and conservation. 1. Use this list (or some other list) to get a full *scope of the current obstacles* preventing more committed use of eBird. 2. *Brainstorm some solutions* - technical and social All ideas could perhaps be submitted to eBird (perhaps via Denis). I'm sure most of our thoughts would be held by birders across the world. From our end, this should also show us some ways that we, bluenosers, can tangibly improve things. Maybe we can have some impact from both the top-down and bottom-up and increase the amount of data that we get to eBird by 20% (though I think we have much more room than that). If there is not consensus that eBird is the way to go, then that is also important to discuss too. cheers, James. On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Larry Neily <larry.neily@hotmail.com> wrote: > Yes, but not for another location in the same county, state/province, or > country (a much more likely scenario). Larry > > ------------------------------ > From: klantz@ns.sympatico.ca > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: Re: [NatureNS] eBird in Nova Scotia > Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 13:43:55 -0300 > > Hi Larry: > > While still viewing a checklist after submitting it and/or if you open it > under "My eBird", "Manage my observations" there are a number of options > along the right hand side that will allow you to start another checklist > for the same location, date etc. without entering all of the data a second > time. > > > > Kevin Lantz > > *From:* Larry Neily <larry.neily@hotmail.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:00 PM > *To:* Post to NatureNS <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> > *Subject:* RE: [NatureNS] eBird in Nova Scotia > > Hi All, > > Just a quick comment about eBird. I am becoming a convert to eBird simply > because of the usefulness of the data. But data submission could be made > easier. Surely any programmer could leave the last entry as default, or > give the option to do so. How many times does one have to reenter the same > county, province/state and country. Why is this necessary? Sorry, a pet > peeve after adding all my records from a single county. > > There are some other problems with eBird. There is a lack of guidance on > how to submit data. Area boundaries are undefined, allowing multiple > interpretations of same. Linear trips crossing county boundaries are > assigned to the county where the point is set. And so on. The onus is on > the submitter to do these things correctly when adding his/her data. But, > of course, it isn't always clear. > > Re Denis LePage's example of the STEM maps: "Just to give you a one > example of the incredible power of these observations when they are > combined, I invite you to look at the following animated maps (called STEM > maps): http://ebird.org/content/ebird/occurrence/. Cornell is currently > in the process of creating these maps for the Americas for release at a > later point, but there are obviously several gaps in regions where eBird > participation remains low, including in many places in Canada." > > These maps are not a good example to elicit Canadian participation. Canada > is not included in Cornell's "maps of the America's", which are USA only > maps. And the map display is ghastly (at least on my screen), all black > with unreadable text, larger displays the same size, no control over speed, > etc. The concept is wonderful, but the execution could be improved (and > surely will be before release). One can hope. > > My two cents worth. Oh, I forgot, cents are only good in the USA now. > Cheers, Larry > > ------------------------------ > > > -- James Churchill Kentville, Nova Scotia jameslchurchill@gmail.com (902) 681-2374 --001a11c2c1045b414d04f6538f8f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">hi folks,=A0<div><br></div><div>Among folks on this list, = and birders everywhere, there seems to be:</div><div><br></div><div>- a gro= wing feeling that eBird is the <b>best place</b> for our observations to en= d up at this point</div> <div>- a feeling that there are some <b>obstacles </b>to efficient contribu= tion of data - some are things we just aren't used to and some are thin= gs that need solutions</div><div><br></div><div>I do not know if this is so= mething that falls to the NS Bird Society or just bluenose birders in gener= al.</div> <div><br></div><div>Under either scenario, I would like to suggest that we = do two things that could make a big impact on what happens with our bird ob= servations in the coming years, and thereby, in theory our contribution to = bird research and conservation.</div> <div><br></div><div><br></div><div>1. Use this list (or some other list) to= get a full <u>scope of the current obstacles</u> preventing more committed= use of eBird.=A0</div><div>2. <u>Brainstorm some solutions</u> - technical= and social</div> <div><br></div><div>All ideas could perhaps be submitted to eBird (perhaps = via Denis). I'm sure most of our thoughts would be held by birders acro= ss the world.</div><div>From our end, this should also show us some ways th= at we, bluenosers, can tangibly improve things.=A0</div> <div><br></div><div>Maybe we can have some impact from both the top-down an= d bottom-up and increase the amount of data that we get to eBird by 20% (th= ough I think we have much more room than that).</div><div><br></div><div> If there is not consensus that eBird is the way to go, then that is also im= portant to discuss too.</div><div><br></div><div>cheers,=A0</div><div>James= .</div><div><