[NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...

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Hi All,                        June 23, 2014
    I have a problem with over zealous regulation and over zealous =
enforcement. If a park operates on a strickly 'look but don't touch =
basis' then protection may be complete but of short duration. This =
applies especially now when many kids are in love with the latest =
game/technology and bored by anything natural (unless it is packaged in =
30 second clips to be enjoyed in the comfort of a chair at home).=20

    Or, expressed another way, Pogo and his friends will over the long =
haul be protected by the child who takes a turtle home and thereby =
learns to respect the natural world.=20

    Miner' s Marsh is subject to severe floods from time to time. And as =
more esker segments and other coarse glacial deposits upstream are mined =
for sand and gravel this flow instability is bound to increase. I =
suspect that many Miner's Marsh Painted Turtles will be swept out to sea =
whenever we have late floods.=20

 John Muir as a boy, when grounded to home base, sometimes amused =
himself by throwing stones at cats or, in one instance, dropping one out =
of a high window. Somehow this wild boy turned out ok, mainly because he =
was wild.

They hang the man and flog the woman=20
who steals the goose from off the common
 but let the greater criminal loose
 who steals the common from the goose.

Yt, DW, Kentville


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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: John and Nhung=20
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:11 AM
  Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...


  Regarding the kid and the turtle, part of growing up is internalizing =
the title of that Rolling Stones song:  "You can't always get what you =
want." =20

  =20

  The appropriate response for a parent to make is, "No, you can't.  =
[Insert reason.]  Get over it."

  =20

  Looks as if a lot of public education is needed.  It's very troubling =
if authorities hesitate to impose penalties because of fear of public =
reaction.

  =20

  From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of James Churchill
  Sent: June-23-14 9:36 AM
  To: naturens
  Subject: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...

  =20

  hi folks,=20

  =20

  dogs -=20

  Others might have noticed this but there are lots of off-leash dogs at =
the Marsh these days. This morning a number of them were chasing ducks =
in the water. There are currently broods of Wood Ducks, Mallards and =
Pied-billed Grebes (2 pairs) hanging around within the marsh and young =
of other birds at the periphery of the marsh.

  =20

  Speaking with Gren Jones, DU Director, there is a fine for having =
off-leash dogs at this site. There is one sign indicating to keep pets =
on leashes but it is around the back near the private drive (northeast =
corner). There used to be one near the bridge as well, but it has been =
taken down. It is not fun to remind people of this and can elicit strong =
emotions from some people when confronted about it. DU is working to get =
another sign up here.=20

  =20

  turtles -=20

  during Marsh Madness this weekend a number of attendees mentioned that =
they have observed people taking Eastern Painted Turtles from the Marsh =
for their children etc. One individual mentioned that they were trying =
to convince a lady not to take them from the marsh and she responded =
that since she told her child she could have one, and that the child was =
currently crying she would just take it anyway.

  =20

  Some thoughts around this are to put up an interpretive sign near some =
of the prime basking areas, or even create basking areas farther from =
the marsh edge.

  =20

  If anyone has thoughts on these things let me know and I can pass =
along suggestions to DU. =20

  =20

  cheers,=20

  James.=20

  =20

  --=20

  James Churchill
  Kentville, Nova Scotia
  jameslchurchill@gmail.com
  (902) 681-2374




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<DIV>Hi All,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; June 23, =
2014</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have a problem with over zealous regulation =
and over=20
zealous enforcement. If a park operates on a strickly 'look but don't =
touch=20
basis' then protection may be complete but of short duration. This =
applies=20
especially now when many kids are in love with the latest =
game/technology and=20
bored by anything natural (unless it is packaged in 30 second clips to =
be=20
enjoyed in the comfo