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> day spent on a river counting and=C2=A0 measuring crayfish or learning --089e01495106e050ec04fc9d7d80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reading Mr Churchill's original post it was not a Red Eared Slider. It was an indigenous Eastern Painted Turtle which is on the SSC candidate list of wildlife species that it considers at risk of extinction or extirpation nationally. So the question remains - does this list condone removing wild animals from their natural habitat at the behest of a screaming five year old 'budding naturalist'? On 24 June 2014 20:23, <darrell@abolitphotos.ca> wrote: > I have a friend in Natural Resourses, he takes children on education tours > at times. > > > > He was telling me at a certain younger ages the children want to know > every insect, plant, animal and all about them. Then a year or two later > they are nothing but a pain to deal with as all they want to do is horse > around. I can't remember the exact ages but get them when they are young is > the best bet. > > > > We had a pond behind our house, hours and hours of intertainment, some not > so happy frogs from it. :~) We fried up some legs one day and older brother > came in, what are you cooking, frog legs, can I have some, sure. Never told > him we just but a second batch on and they were totally raw, What a laugh > we had, still chuckle about it when it crosses my mind. > > > > All the best, > > Darrell > > > > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 15:45:46 -0700, M gayle Maclean <dashis9@yahoo.ca> > wrote: > > Perhaps the NS Young Naturalists group & their adult leaders, or the NS > Museum Of Natural History, might put together a package that could be > shared with the NS Dept.of Education? > Not sure what age group would be best suited towards, mind you. > Am sure there are many on this list, who could advise or suggest. > Interesting topic, indeed! > > Gayle MacLean > Dartmouth > > > On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:17:41 PM, desolatechair < > desolatechair@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Budding biologists should learn to observe wild animals in their natural > habitat, no? Do you really condone this behavior? > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: David & Alison Webster > Date:06-24-2014 6:43 PM (GMT-04:00) > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park... > > Hi John & All, June 24, 2014 > You have a point. > > Several of us have independently discovered that not having a turtle > at > home is more fun and less bother than having one at home. So why should > future generations of children, especially if they are budding Biologists, > have ts learn such matters by experience ? > > Some suitable inspirational lectures, starting by the second > trimester, > supplemented by officially sanctioned posters in the Nursery should not > only > confer protection to turtles but snuff out ideas of getting involved in > Biology so that children grow up to do something useful, such as being > avid > consumers. > > Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John and Nhung" <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> > To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 2:37 PM > Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park... > > > > Good commentary about the need for kids to be exposed to nature, but as > an > > initial part of the exposure, kids need to be told to leave nature where > > it > > sits. > > > > I was acquisitive when I was small, as well, and accumulated quite a > > collection of live amphibians and snakes. After some of them died, > > despite > > my best attempts, I realized that collecting was not a good idea. So > then > > I > > kept paper records, instead: species, colour, length, ... can't remember > > what else I tabulated, but do remember the biggest garter snake I ever > > caught measured 33 inches from snout to tail! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto: > naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] > > On Behalf Of bev wigney > > Sent: June-24-14 12:00 PM > > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > > Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park... > > > > On 2014-06-24, at 10:23 AM, Fred Schueler <bckcdb@istar.ca> wrote: > > > >> * it's hard to see this as bullshit - it's one of the fundamental > >> problems facing naturalists and nature in these latter days. Both kids > >> and society suffer from Nature Appreciation Deficit Disorder, and from > >> the consequences the grotesque exploitation of the Earth by those > >> afflicted with NADD. It's a big part of the job of naturalists to > >> reverse this, and temporarily holding Turtles in captivity is one of > >> the classic ways of communing with nature and getting started with > >> science > >> > >> fred. > > > > * I would like to echo what Fred Schueler has just commented. While I'm > > definitely not advocating that parents should capture painted turtles for > > spoilt children, etc..., I do wonder if there is a natural history > > education > > program available at that site (and others as well). Being close enough > > to > > observe small creatures is one way of inspiring interest and empathy for > > the > > natural world. Some will say, "But there are interpretive signs!" To > > which > > I will reply, "Those are not enough." > > > > For several years, I conducted volunteer stream surveys in the Ottawa > > area. > > A science teacher at one of that city's high schools asked if she could > > bring her Grade 10 biology class out to spend a full day with my survey > > partner and I once each season. I believe we did four of these annual > > class > > outing surveys. I soon learned that, almost without exception, no child > > had > > ever held a frog, crayfish, turtle, fish, butterfly, or dragonfly. In > > fact, > > many of these kids were quite afraid and sometimes even terrified of > > touching, being touched by, or even looking closely at these creatures. > A > > couple of times I had to have talks with kids who screamed and > immediately > > crushed fishing or wolf spiders on sight. However, by the end of a day > of > > sur