[NatureNS] fisher vs marten -- was probable fisher sighting kings co ns

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Paul and everyone, I am one who has never seen either one in the  
wild, but I would like to know from Paul how much bigger his marten  
or fisher was compared with the red squirrel?  Fishers, I believe,  
are quite a bit bigger than martens, although each species shows  
marked sexual dimarphism with males bigger than females.

Finally, a martin is a bird not a mammal.

Cheers from Jim

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> From: Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com>
> Date: July 2, 2014 9:11:40 AM ADT
> To: "naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] probable fisher sighting kings co ns
> Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>
> Hi Rick and All
> I have difficulty telling which is a martin  and which is a fisher.  
> I've never seen enough of either to be sure of the difference. Any  
> easy clues?
> My best m/f story was at Keji maybe 20 years ago. It was in March  
> and the snow was nearly gone so I walked from the Fish Hatchery to  
> Loon Lake Cabin. Its 9 km so when I got there I sat in a sunny spot  
> to have my tea. It was beside the river.
> As I was eating I saw a squirrel in a big red maple tree across the  
> river. The branches came out over the water. I was watching the  
> squirrel when I spotted a martin or a fisher - not sure which -  
> chasing the squirrel which thought it was on the m/f lunch menu.  
> The squirrel kept getting out on smaller branches, with the weasel  
> just behind. When the squirrel could go no further both were on the  
> same branch no bigger than my thumb. In a last attempt the squirrel  
> jumped to another branch and this set the branch the m/f was on  
> vibrating rather badly. The m/f lost its balance and fell in the  
> water.
> The water was cold and the m/f didn't know how to swim but kept  
> trying to walk on the water. Finally its efforts plus the current  
> got it close enough that it could climb out on shore.
> It was cold and wet and started to shake the water out of its coat.  
> That animal could shake - walk a few feet and shake again. finally  
> it disappeared in the forest.
> A great memory.
> I hope you all take the chance to walk in the forest - never know  
> what you will see. Its not important if you know the difference  
> between a martin and a fisher - lots of folks know who never saw  
> either in the wild!
> Enjoy the summer
> Paul
>
>
> On Friday, June 27, 2014 7:59:39 AM, Rick Ballard  
> <ideaphore@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Interestingly, just after I read this, I read an article regarding  
> a Fisher found living in the Bronx in New York City. Probably a  
> smorgasbord of squirrels and rats.
>
> http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/06/25/mystery-solved-for-strange- 
> animal-found-scurrying-around-the-bronx/
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:39 AM, John and Nhung  
> <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> wrote:
> Back in the early spring of 2007, something long , low, dark, and  
> very fast shot across a wooded road between Hectanooga and Norwood,  
> just inside Digby county, about 100 meters in front of our car.  My  
> wife noticed a fairly bushy tail, and the picture of a fisher  
> looked right.
>
> Plenty of porcupines around to feed them.
>
> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens- 
> owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of desolatechair
> Sent: June-26-14 10:19 PM
> To: naturens
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] probable fisher sighting kings co ns
>
> George
>
> I saw a Fisher in woods on the Bog road, between Hantsport and  
> Falmouth,in Feb. 2010.
>
> It was way too fast to get a photo but I do have excellent photos  
> of the prints, which have been verified by reliable third parties.
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: "George E. Forsyth"
> Date:06-26-2014 9:55 PM (GMT-04:00)
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: [NatureNS] probable fisher sighting kings co ns
>
> Hello All,
>
> My son called me this afternoon from his truck in a new orchard he is
> managing near Morristown, Kings Co,NS. 44.987921, -64.753974  He said
> that he had seen a badger, I told him that they didn't live in Nova
> Scotia. He has seen badgers in Alberta and Saskatchewan while he
> worked in wilderness areas, he did habitat assessments and badger
> surveys. This animal today ran in front of his truck and underneath a
> large pile if poles that will be used to build a trellis for the new
> orchard. He didn't get out of the truck as he believed it to be a
> badger, and he was unable to take a picture of the animal.
>
> After he described the animal that he had seen, I looked up the
> article that was written by Barry Sabean a number of years ago, and
> read the description to him. The two descriptions matched, and I then
> linked him to a video of a fisher taken in Connecticut.  He felt that
> this also matched what he had seen.
>
> He then told me that there had been three areas in the orchard where
> he had daily seen groundhogs, but he now notes that they are now not
> being seen. A fisher in the area would do well having groundhog  
> dinners!
>
> How common are fishers, and have they been seen in Kings County?
>
> George Forsyth
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Rick Ballard
> Dartmouth,Nova Scotia, Canada
>
>


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