[NatureNS] fisher vs marten -- was probable fisher sighting kings co ns

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Hi All=0AToday we were out on the Dynamite Trail clearing away Arthurs gift=
s. A pleasant day in the woods out of the hot sun.=0AAt one point a dark br=
own animal came by.=C2=A0 Looked like a member of the weasel family - about=
 the size of a small cat - pointed ears and a pointed face. short legs and =
sort of bounded along but was in no hurry.=0AIt stopped and looked at us fo=
r a few seconds and then ambled on through the forest.=0AThe area is beside=
 a lake and the woods goes on for many miles. Where we were was mixed maple=
, oak, spruce and some others. I suspect it was a woodland pasture at one t=
ime but I don't know that for sure.=0AMy guess was a fisher but it didn't l=
eave any card!=0AEnjoy the summer=0APaul=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=
=A0 =0A=0A=0AOn Thursday, July 3, 2014 7:21:22 PM, Paul MacDonald <paulrita=
2001@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A  =0A=0A=0AHi Lance and All=0AThis talk of Fishers=
 reminds me of the time 20+ years ago in=C2=A0 late winter I was on a walk =
on a woods road in Keji when I came across a porcupine skin all neatly wrap=
ped. The flesh side was out with the meat cleaned off and the quills were p=
ointed in. The whole affair about the size of a football.=0AA friend told m=
e that a fisher had killed and eaten the porcupine.=C2=A0 I see reference t=
o that in some of the fisher info.=0AEnjoy Arthur=0APaul=0A=0A=0AOn Thursda=
y, July 3, 2014 3:10:19 PM, "Laviolette, Lance (EXP)" <lance.laviolette@lmc=
o.com> wrote:=0A=C2=A0=0A=0A=0A=0A =0AHi Paul and others, =0A=C2=A0 =0APaul=
 wrote the following concerning the abundance ranking for furbearer harvest=
 2012-2013 table: =0A=E2=80=9CHow these figures are arrived at I have no id=
ea.=E2=80=9D =0A=C2=A0 =0AIf you look on the =E2=80=98Furharvesters Report =
Form=E2=80=99, a form that is turned into DNR annually by furharvesters, yo=
u=E2=80=99ll see in the lower right corner an area for the reporting person=
 to estimate how plentiful a species is in the locations they trap. Essenti=
ally, 0=3Dnone and 4=3DVery High (N=3Dno opinion). The numbers in the table=
 you refer to are simply averages of these reported estimates of abundance =
by furharvesters for each county in NS for each species. =0A=C2=A0 =0AIf yo=
u look at the numbers for marten and fishers, since that=E2=80=99s what the=
 original question referred to, you=E2=80=99ll see that the furharvesters e=
stimates suggest that province-wide, fishers are basically four times more =
abundant than marten. In Kings Co., fishers are estimated to be about two a=
nd one half times as abundant as marten.  =0A=C2=A0 =0ATo give this another=
 comparison, beaver are estimated to be about nine times more abundant prov=
ince-wide than marten. Squirrel are estimated to be the most abundant furbe=
aring mammal in the province but only slightly more abundant than beaver. =
=0A=C2=A0 =0AThe estimates can also be looked at over time. Over the last 2=
5 years the province wide estimates for fishers has tripled and over the la=
st 15 years that of marten has doubled. =0A=C2=A0 =0AShould anyone want to =
look at the tables, the URL is: =0Ahttp://novascotia.ca/natr/hunt/abundance=
-rankings.asp =0A=C2=A0 =0AThanks to Mike O=E2=80=99Brien who is the DNR Wi=
ldlife Manager, Furbearer and Upland Game Program, for pointing me in the r=
ight direction. =0A=C2=A0 =0AAll the best, =0A=C2=A0 =0ALance =0A=C2=A0 =0A=
From:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] O=
n Behalf Of Paul MacDonald=0ASent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:26 AM=0ATo: n=
aturens@chebucto.ns.ca=0ASubject: EXTERNAL: Re: [NatureNS] fisher vs marten=
 -- was probable fisher sighting kings co ns   =0A=C2=A0 =0AInteresting Ang=
us  =0AAbundance Ranking for Furbearer Harvest 2012 - 2013 (two tables)=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 gives a figure of 0.29 for marten and 1.13 for fisher. M=
arten is listed for all counties save 2 and fisher save 1.  =0AHow these fi=
gures are arrived at I have no idea.  =0ASo the odds of an unknown small ca=
t sized weasel favors fisher by a good margin. No doubt some will conjure u=
p a cougar from either!   =0AEnjoy the summer  =0APaul  
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1787yui_3_16_0_9_1405191929500_9">Hi All</span></div><div><span>Today we we=
re out on the Dynamite Trail clearing away Arthurs gifts. A pleasant day in=
 the woods out of the hot sun.</span></div><div><span>At one point a dark b=
rown animal came by.&nbsp; Looked like a member of the weasel family - abou=
t the size of a small cat - pointed ears and a pointed face. short legs and=
 sort of bounded along but was in no hurry.</span></div><div><span>It stopp=
ed and looked at us for a few seconds and then ambled on through the
 forest.</span></div><div><span>The area is beside a lake and the woods goe=
s on for many miles. Where we were was mixed maple, oak, spruce and some ot=
hers. I suspect it was a woodland pasture at one time but I don't know that=
 for sure.</span></div><div><span>My guess was a fisher but it didn't leave=
 any card!</span></div><div><span>Enjoy the summer</span></div><div><span>P=
aul</span></div><div><span></span>&nbsp;</div><div><span></span>&nbsp;</div=
><div><span></span>&nbsp;</div><div><span></span>&nbsp;</div> <div class=3D=
"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yiv1313891787yqt3892358836" id=
=3D"yiv1313891787yqt80759"><div class=3D"yiv1313891787yahoo_quoted" id=3D"y=
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21:22 PM, Paul MacDonald &lt;paulrita2001@yahoo.com&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"=
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"yiv1313891787y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv1313891787"><div><div class=3D=
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icaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-=
size: 14pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Hi Lance and =
All</span></div><div><span>This talk of Fishers reminds me of the time 20+ =
years ago in&nbsp; late winter I was on a walk on a woods road in Keji when=
 I came across a porcupine skin all neatly wrapped. The flesh side was out =
with the meat cleaned off and the quills were pointed in. The whole affair =
about the size of a football.</span></div><div><span>A friend told me that =
a fisher had
 killed and eaten the porcupine.&nbsp; I see reference to that in some of t=
he fisher info.</span></div><div><span>Enjoy Arthur</span></div><div><span>=
Paul</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1313891787qtdSeparateBR"><br clear=3D"non=
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"yiv1313891787yqt80510"><div class=3D"yiv1313891787yahoo_quoted" style=3D"d=
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014 3:10:19 PM,=0A "Laviolette, Lance (EXP)" &lt;lance.laviolette@lmco.com&=
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ion1">=0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31=
, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Hi Paul and others,</span></div> =0A<div clas=
s=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-s=
ize: 11pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Paul wrote the fol=
lowing concerning the abundance ranking for furbearer harvest 2012-2013 tab=
le:</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal"><span style=3D"co=
lor: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">=E2=80=9CHow these figures are arr=
ived at I have no idea.=E2=80=9D</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv131389178=
7MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> &nbs=
p;</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal"><span style=3D"col=
or: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">If you look on the =E2=80=98Furharv=
esters Report Form=E2=80=99, a form that is turned into DNR annually by fur=
harvesters, you=E2=80=99ll see in the lower right corner an area for the=0A=
 reporting person to estimate how plentiful a species is in the locations t=
hey trap. Essentially, 0=3Dnone and 4=3DVery High (N=3Dno opinion). The num=
bers in the table you refer to are simply averages of these reported estima=
tes of abundance by furharvesters for=0A each county in NS for each species=
.</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal"><span style=3D"colo=
r: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<div class=
=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-si=
ze: 11pt;">If you look at the numbers for marten and fishers, since that=E2=
=80=99s what the original question referred to, you=E2=80=99ll see that the=
 furharvesters estimates suggest=0A that province-wide, fishers are basical=
ly four times more abundant than marten. In Kings Co., fishers are estimate=
d to be about two and one half times as abundant as marten.=0A</span></div>=
 =0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73,=
 125); font-size: 11pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv131389178=
7MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">To gi=
ve this another comparison, beaver are estimated to be about nine times mor=
e abundant province-wide than marten. Squirrel are estimated to be the most=
=0A abundant furbearing mammal in the province but only slightly more abund=
ant than beaver.</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =
=0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, =
125); font-size: 11pt;">The estimates can also be looked at over time. Over=
 the last 25 years the province wide estimates for fishers has tripled and =
over the last 15 years that of=0A marten has doubled.</span></div> =0A<div =
class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); fo=
nt-size: 11pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Should anyone =
want to look at the tables, the URL is:</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv13=
13891787MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;=
"><a href=3D"http://novascotia.ca/natr/hunt/abundance-rankings.asp" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">http://novascotia.ca/natr/hunt/=
abundance-rankings.asp</a></span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> &nbsp;</sp=
an></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rg=
b(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Thanks to Mike O=E2=80=99Brien who is the=
 DNR Wildlife Manager, Furbearer and Upland Game Program, for pointing me i=
n the right direction.</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> &nbsp;</span><=
/div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31=
, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">All the best,</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"y=
iv1313891787MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 1=
1pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Lance</span></div> =0A<d=
iv class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);=
 font-size: 11pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<div>=0A<div style=3D"border-wid=
th: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181=
, 196, 223) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;">=0A<div class=
=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">From:</span=
></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;"> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailt=
o:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]=0A<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul MacDonald<br cl=
ear=3D"none">=0A<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:26 AM<br clear=3D"n=
one">=0A<b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br clear=3D"none">=0A<b>Subject:=
</b> EXTERNAL: Re: [NatureNS] fisher vs marten -- was probable fisher sight=
ing kings co ns</span></div> =0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv13138917=
87MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div> =0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787Ms=
oNormal" style=3D"background: white;"><span style=3D"color: black; font-siz=
e: 14pt;">Interesting Angus</span></div> =0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"=
yiv1313891787MsoNormal" style=3D"background: white;"><a name=3D"fur2012" id=
=3D"yiv1313891787fur3" href=3D"" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"><span styl=
e=3D"color: black; font-size: 14pt;"><b><u><span>Abundance Ranking for Furb=
earer Harvest 2012=0A - 2013 </span></u></b></span></a><span style=3D"color=
: black; font-size: 14pt;">(two tables)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; gives a figure=
 of 0.29 for marten and 1.13 for fisher. Marten is listed for all counties =
save 2 and fisher save=0A 1.</span></div> =0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D=
"yiv1313891787MsoNormal" style=3D"background: white;"><span style=3D"color:=
 black; font-size: 14pt;">How these figures are arrived at I have no idea.<=
/span></div> =0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal" styl=
e=3D"background: white;"><span style=3D"color: black; font-size: 14pt;">So =
the odds of an unknown small cat sized weasel favors fisher by a good margi=
n. No doubt some will conjure up a cougar from either!=0A</span></div> =0A<=
/div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal" style=3D"background: =
white;"><span style=3D"color: black; font-size: 14pt;">Enjoy the summer</sp=
an></div> =0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv1313891787MsoNormal" style=
=3D"background: white;"><span style=3D"color: black; font-size: 14pt;">Paul=
</span></div> =0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv=
1313891787MsoNormal" style=3D"background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><spa=
n style=3D"color: black;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=
=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div>  </div> </div>  </div></div> </div></div></div><br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div>  </div> </div>  </div></div> </div></di=
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