[NatureNS] Lupins

From: David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>
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Hi Jane & All,                                            July 18, 2014
    In my view the best reference is still Edible Wild Plants of Eastern =
North America (Fernald, Kinsey & Rollins) 1943>1958. I have yet to find =
an error of fact in it; just one figure transposed involving Dulse & =
Laver on pp 403 & 404. It may be possible to buy used copies.

    Most books about edible plants contain some rubbish. Even the N.S. =
Museum of Science added to the misinformation stream (Edible Wild Plants =
of Nova Scotia) and Alex Wilson (letter of July 6, 1978) saw no reason =
to even issue an errata because the booklet has "...gained wide =
acceptance...".

Yours truly, Dave Webste, Kentville


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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Dave&Jane Schlosberg=20
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
  Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Lupins


  David, are you referring to =E2=80=9CEdible Wild Plants=E2=80=9D by =
Oliver Perry Medsger?  This was my primary reference for this topic for =
a number of years; but I eventually found a number of mistakes in it.  =
What is the best reference for edibility today?
  Jane

  From: Ronald Arsenault=20
  Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 11:53 PM
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
  Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Lupins

  Hello David,

  A low alkaloid variety of the White Lupin, Lupinus albus, was =
subjected to trials as a forage crop here in Atlantic Canada (Nfld; =
PEI?) a number of years ago (~1995 - 2005 perhaps). I have no idea =
whether or not farmers continued to use it after the trials.

  While I have seen lupin flour as a food ingredient,I am not aware of =
any lupins being grown for human consumption in Atlantic Canada.  I =
understand that L. angustifolius is the species used to make lupin flour =
and that most of the production is in Australia.

  Cheers

  Ron

  On Thursday, July 17, 2014, David & Alison Webster =
<dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:
  > Dear All,                        July 17, 2014
  >    Having learned ~65 years ago that Lupin seeds were toxic (Edible =
Wild Plants of North America) I was surprised to learn by accident today =
that Lupin seeds have been used by humans in Mediterranean countries for =
thousands of years.
  >
  >    Does anyone know if any of these 'sweet' Lupins can be grown here =
and whether they readily cross with our other introduced Lupins ?
  >
  > Yt, Dave Websterm Kentville
  >
  >
  >
  >

  --=20
  Ronald G. Arsenault
  Moncton, N.B.

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some&nbsp;rubbish. Even the N.S. Museum of Science&nbsp;added to the=20
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Lupins</DIV>
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  <DIV>David, are you referring to =E2=80=9CEdible Wild Plants=E2=80=9D =
by Oliver Perry=20
  Medsger?&nbsp; This was my primary reference for this topic for a =
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  years; but I eventually found a number of mistakes in it.&nbsp; What =
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  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 17, 2014 11:53 PM</DIV>
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