[NatureNS] earth not warming ?- LOOK TO THE OCEANS

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Varying planetary heat sink led to global-warming slowdown and acceleration
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   - Xianyao Chen   1,   2,=20
   - Ka-Kit Tung   2,

Varying planetary heat sink led to global-warming slowdown and acceleration
Editor's summary:=20

Deep-sea warming slows down global warming
 Global warming seems to have paused over the past 15 years while the deep =
ocean takes the heat instead. The thermal capacity of the oceans far exceed=
s that of the atmosphere, so the oceans can store up to 90% of the heat bui=
ldup caused by increased concentrations of greenhouse gases such as carbon =
dioxide. Chen and Tung used observational data to trace the pathways of rec=
ent ocean heating. They conclude that the deep Atlantic and Southern Oceans=
, but not the Pacific, have absorbed the excess heat that would otherwise h=
ave fueled continued warming. =C2=A0
      From: "darrell@abolitphotos.ca" <darrell@abolitphotos.ca>
 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
 Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 11:19 AM
 Subject: RE: [NatureNS] earth not warming ?
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 09:52:43 -0500, Fred Schueler <bckcdb@istar.ca> wrote:
Quoting Stephen Shaw <srshaw@Dal.Ca>:
>
> > I think we've been here before a while back, and that this '17y >=20
> not-warming' idea is just plain wrong.=20
>
> * I think the basis of this is that, in documents written in 1999,=20
> one can read that 1998 was the warmest year on record - and since=20
> these documents haven't magically updated themselves, there must not=20
> have been any warmer year since, despite the near-surface googlable=20
> datum that that 2013 was the warmest.=20
>
> It's characteristic of pseudoscience to base their arguments on=20
> outdated statements and documents of the mainstream understanding of=20
> a subject. A slight excuse for this, in this case, is that it was=20
> around 1998 that the data were first on hand to calculate the overall=20
> warmth of the planet.=20
>
> fred.=20
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Frederick W. Schueler & Aleta Karstad
> Daily Paintings - http://karstaddailypaintings.blogspot.com/
> Vulnerable Watersheds - http://vulnerablewaters.blogspot.ca/
> study our books - http://pinicola.ca/books/index.htm
> RR#2 Bishops Mills, Ontario, Canada K0G 1T0
> on the Smiths Falls Limestone Plain 44* 52'N 75* 42'W
> (613)258-3107 <bckcdb at istar.ca> http://pinicola.ca/
> "[The] two fundamental steps of scientific thought - the conjecture=20
> and refutation of Popper - have little place in the usual conception=20
> of intelligence. If something is to be dismissed as inadequate, it is=20
> surely not Darwin [, whose] works manifest the activity of a mind=20
> seeking for wisdom, a value which conventional philosophy has largely=20
> abandoned." Ghiselen, 1969. Triumph of the Darwinian Method, p 237.=20
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>

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Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grand=
e, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br><h1 style=3D"" class=3D"" id=3D"article-t=
itle-1" itemprop=3D"headline">Varying planetary heat sink led to global-war=
ming slowdown and acceleration</h1>
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                     <ol style=3D"" class=3D"" id=3D"contrib-group-1"><li s=
tyle=3D"" class=3D"" id=3D"contrib-1" itemprop=3D"author" itemscope=3D"item=
scope" itemtype=3D"http://schema.org/Person"><span style=3D"" class=3D"" it=
emprop=3D"name"><a style=3D"" class=3D"" href=3D"http://www.sciencemag.org/=
search?author1=3DXianyao+Chen&amp;sortspec=3Ddate&amp;submit=3DSubmit">Xian=
yao Chen</a></span><a style=3D"" id=3D"xref-aff-1-1" class=3D"" href=3D"htt=
p://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6199/897#aff-1"><sup id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1417535006700_3104" style=3D"" class=3D"">1</sup></a><span style=3D"" class=
=3D"">,</span><a style=3D"" id=3D"xref-aff-2-1" class=3D"" href=3D"http://w=
ww.sciencemag.org/content/345/6199/897#aff-2"><sup style=3D"" class=3D"">2<=
/sup></a>,=20
                        </li><li style=3D"" class=3D"" id=3D"contrib-2"><sp=
an id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1417535006700_2945" style=3D"" class=3D""><a id=3D"yu=
i_3_16_0_1_1417535006700_2944" style=3D"" class=3D"" href=3D"http://www.sci=
encemag.org/search?author1=3DKa-Kit+Tung&amp;sortspec=3Ddate&amp;submit=3DS=
ubmit">Ka-Kit Tung</a></span><a style=3D"" id=3D"xref-aff-2-2" class=3D"" h=
ref=3D"http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6199/897#aff-2"><sup id=3D"yui=
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yui_3_16_0_1_1417535006700_2942" style=3D"" class=3D"">,</span></li></ol><d=
iv id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1417535006700_2654" class=3D"signature"><br><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1417535006700_2950" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
417535006700_2942" style=3D"" class=3D""><a id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_141753500670=
0_2948" href=3D"http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6199/897">Varying pla=
netary heat sink led to global-warming slowdown and acceleration</a></span>=
</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1417535006700_3103"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_1_1417535006700_3102" dir=3D"ltr">Editor's summary: <br></div><h2 id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1417535006700_3101" style=3D"" class=3D"">Deep-sea warming=
 slows down global warming</h2>
                     <div style=3D"" class=3D"" id=3D"p-1">Global warming s=
eems to have paused=20
over the past 15 years while the deep ocean takes the heat instead. The=20
thermal capacity
                        of the oceans far exceeds that of the=20
atmosphere, so the oceans can store up to 90% of the heat buildup caused
 by increased
                        concentrations of greenhouse gases such as=20
carbon dioxide. Chen and Tung used observational data to trace the=20
pathways of
                        recent ocean heating. They conclude that the=20
deep Atlantic and Southern Oceans, but not the Pacific, have absorbed=20
the excess
                        heat that would otherwise have fueled continued=20
warming.
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e=3D"" class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div></div><br>  <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
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r=3D"ltr"> <hr id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1417535006700_2674" size=3D"1">  <font id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1417535006700_2664" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span st=
yle=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "darrell@abolitphotos.ca" &lt;da=
rrell@abolitphotos.ca&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</sp=
an></b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">=
Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 2, 2014 11:19 AM<br> <b><span style=3D"f=
ont-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [NatureNS] earth not warming ?<b=
r> </font> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1417535006700_2660" class=3D"y_ms=
g_container"><br>&nbsp; &nbsp;  &nbsp;<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; &nbsp;<br c=
lear=3D"none">&nbsp; Volcano's are help keeping us cool&nbsp;with all the r=
ecent (10years or <br clear=3D"none">so) eruptions. <br clear=3D"none">&nbs=
p; &nbsp;<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; &nbsp;A part of the equation that cannot=
 be ignored. <br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; &nbsp;<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; &nbs=
p;<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; &nbsp;<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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; &nbsp;<br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div =
class=3D"yqt4933526482" id=3D"yqtfd50277"><br clear=3D"none">On Tue, 02 Dec=
 2014 09:52:43 -0500, Fred Schueler &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto=
:bckcdb@istar.ca" href=3D"mailto:bckcdb@istar.ca">bckcdb@istar.ca</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br clear=3D"none">Quoting Stephen Shaw &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:srshaw@Dal.Ca" href=3D"mailto:srshaw@Dal.Ca">srshaw@Dal.Ca</a>&g=
t;:<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt; I think we've been h=
ere before a while back, and that this '17y &gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; no=
t-warming' idea is just plain wrong. <br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"no=
ne">&gt; * I think the basis of this is that, in documents written in 1999,=
 <br clear=3D"none">&gt; one can read that 1998 was the warmest year on rec=
ord - and since <br clear=3D"none">&gt; these documents haven't magically u=
pdated themselves, there must not <br clear=3D"none">&gt; have been any war=
mer year since, despite the near-surface googlable <br clear=3D"none">&gt; =
datum that that 2013 was the warmest. <br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"n=
one">&gt; It's characteristic of pseudoscience to base their arguments on <=
br clear=3D"none">&gt; outdated statements and documents of the mainstream =
understanding of <br clear=3D"none">&gt; a subject. A slight excuse for thi=
s, in this case, is that it was <br clear=3D"none">&gt; around 1998 that th=
e data were first on hand to calculate the overall <br clear=3D"none">&gt; =
warmth of the planet. <br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; fred. =
<br clear=3D"none">&gt; ---------------------------------------------------=
---------<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Frederick W. Schueler &amp; Aleta Karstad<=
br clear=3D"none">&gt; Daily Paintings - <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://k=
arstaddailypaintings.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://karstaddailypa=
intings.blogspot.com/</a><br clear=3D"none">&gt; Vulnerable Watersheds - <a=
 shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://vulnerablewaters.blogspot.ca/" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://vulnerablewaters.blogspot.ca/</a><br clear=3D"none">&gt; study =
our books - <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://pinicola.ca/books/index.htm" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://pinicola.ca/books/index.htm</a><br clear=3D"none">&=
gt; RR#2 Bishops Mills, Ontario, Canada K0G 1T0<br clear=3D"none">&gt; on t=
he Smiths Falls Limestone Plain 44* 52'N 75* 42'W<br clear=3D"none">&gt; (6=
13)258-3107 &lt;bckcdb at istar.ca&gt; <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://pin=
icola.ca/" target=3D"_blank">http://pinicola.ca/</a><br clear=3D"none">&gt;=
 "[The] two fundamental steps of scientific thought - the conjecture <br cl=
ear=3D"none">&gt; and refutation of Popper - have little place in the usual=
 conception <br clear=3D"none">&gt; of intelligence. If something is to be =
dismissed as inadequate, it is <br clear=3D"none">&gt; surely not Darwin [,=
 whose] works manifest the activity of a mind <br clear=3D"none">&gt; seeki=
ng for wisdom, a value which conventional philosophy has largely <br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; abandoned." Ghiselen, 1969. Triumph of the Darwinian Method,=
 p 237. <br clear=3D"none">&gt; -------------------------------------------=
-----------------<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D=
"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; &nbsp;<br clear=3D"=
none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </d=
iv>  </div>
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