[NatureNS] RE: trapping

From: Paul Ruggles <cpruggles@eastlink.ca>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 16:17:41 -0300
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I guess Shakespeare had it about right - "nothing either good or bad, =
but thinking makes it so".
Paul.
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On 2015-03-18, at 4:05 PM, darrell@abolitphotos.ca wrote:

> Keep your pets home or on a leash, problem solved. Dog owners are not =
allowed to let them roam free to kill at will, either should cat owners =
be.
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> Most dogs will simply sit and not fight in a coyote snare as they are =
leash trained. Simply loosen the snare and be happy there is a trapper =
near by to keep the coyote's in check, they will kill your dog toot =
sweet, likely eat it too.
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> You know the end times are near when it's wrong to do what's right and =
right to do what is wrong.
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> On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:22:21 -0300, John and Nhung =
<nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> wrote:
> Good point about the hazards to pets.   Sounds like a issue that needs =
a reasonable discussion among pet-owners and trappers, in order to =
identify a mutually-acceptable solution.
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> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Keith Lowe
> Sent: March 18, 2015 2:17 PM
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Bobcats starving in harsh Nova Scotia winter
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> Considering traps can be anywhere and everywhere including illegally =
on the property of unsuspecting property owners and mere meters from =
well-trodden public trails (search =93no traps on trails=94 for many =
examples of this problem), you=92re saying family pets shouldn=92t be in =
the woods. I think it would make far more sense to ban lethal traps.  =
And we=92re heading in the direction at a donkey-slow pace.
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> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of =
rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 1:52 PM
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Bobcats starving in harsh Nova Scotia winter
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> Well Keith
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> Family pets shouldn't be where trappers can catch them.
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> Trappers are definitely helping out the birds if they do find one in a =
snare.
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> Enjoy the winter
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> Paul
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> On March 18, 2015 at 1:35 PM Keith Lowe <mythos25@live.com> wrote:
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> I suppose trappers catching family pets are helping them out too
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> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of =
rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 1:24 PM
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Bobcats starving in harsh Nova Scotia winter
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> Predators like Bobcats always produce more young than the range can =
carry Keith.=20
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> Every few winters a harsh one will come along and thin out the =
population.
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> Natures way of ensure the survival of the species.
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> Trappers help Nature out by harvesting the surplus before the harsh =
weather arrives.
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> Keeps the population numbers steady over a period of time.
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> Same with deer and lots of other animals. Mice love it though and
> =20
> make love in safety all winter!
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> Enjoy the winter
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> Paul
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> On March 18, 2015 at 11:54 AM Keith Lowe <mythos25@live.com> wrote:
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I =
guess Shakespeare had it about right - "nothing&nbsp;either&nbsp;good or =
bad,&nbsp;but thinking makes it =
so".<div>Paul.</div><div>.<br><div><div>On 2015-03-18, at 4:05 PM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:darrell@abolitphotos.ca">darrell@abolitphotos.ca</a> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
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</style>Keep your pets home or on a leash, problem solved. Dog owners =
are not
allowed to let them roam free to kill at will, either should cat owners
be.<br><br>Most dogs will simply&nbsp;sit and not&nbsp;fight in a coyote =
snare as they
are leash trained. Simply loosen the snare and be happy there is a =
trapper near
by to keep the coyote's in check, they will kill your dog toot sweet, =
likely eat
it too.<br><br>You know the end times are near when it's wrong to do =
what's
right and right to do what is wrong.<br><br><em>"Isa 5:20 KJV Woe unto =
them that
call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light =
for
darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for
=
bitter!"<br></em><br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br><br><br><br><br>On
Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:22:21 -0300, John and Nhung &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca">nhungjohn@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;
wrote:<br><blockquote dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"border-left: 2px solid =
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<div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: =
#1f497d;">Good point about the hazards
to pets.&nbsp;&nbsp; Sounds like a issue that needs a reasonable =
discussion among
pet-owners and trappers, in order to identify a mutually-acceptable
solution.</span></p><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a =
target=3D"" name=3D"_MailEndCompose"></a></p><div>&nbsp;<br =
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3.0pt 0cm
0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></strong><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: =
'Tahoma','sans-serif';">
<a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.c=
a</a> [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] <strong>On
Behalf Of </strong>Keith Lowe<br><strong>Sent:</strong> March 18, 2015 =
2:17
PM<br><strong>To:</strong> <a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br><st=
rong>Subject:</strong>
RE: [NatureNS] Bobcats starving in harsh Nova Scotia =
winter</span></p><div>&nbsp;<br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
</div>
</div><div>&nbsp;<br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d; mso-fareast-language:
EN-US;">Considering traps can be anywhere and everywhere including =
illegally on
the property of unsuspecting property owners and mere meters from =
well-trodden
public trails (search =93no traps on trails=94 for many examples of this
problem), you=92re saying family pets shouldn=92t be in the woods. I =
think it
would make far more sense to ban lethal traps. &nbsp;And we=92re heading =
in the
direction at a donkey-slow pace.</span></p><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
<div>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: =
3.0pt 0cm
0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span =
lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></strong><span lang=3D"EN-US"> <a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" =
target=3D"">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> [<a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" =
target=3D"">mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a>] <strong>On Behalf =
Of
</strong><a href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca" =
target=3D"">rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca</a><br><strong>Sent:</strong> =
Wednesday,
March 18, 2015 1:52 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> <a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" =
target=3D"">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br><strong>Subject:</strong> RE:
[NatureNS] Bobcats starving in harsh Nova Scotia =
winter</span></p><div>&nbsp;<br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
</div>
</div><div>&nbsp;<br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; =
font-family: 'Times New
Roman','serif';">Well Keith</span></p><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; =
font-family: 'Times New
Roman','serif';">Family pets shouldn't be where trappers can catch
them.</span></p><div>&nbsp;<br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; =
font-family: 'Times New
Roman','serif';">Trappers are definitely helping out the birds if they =
do find
one in a snare.</span></p><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; =
font-family: 'Times New
Roman','serif';">Enjoy the winter</span></p><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; =
font-family: 'Times New
Roman','serif';">Paul</span></p><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border: none; border-left: solid blue 1.0pt; =
padding: 0cm 0cm
0cm 8.0pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: =
5.0pt;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span =
style=3D"font-size:
12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif';">On March 18, 2015 at =
1:35 PM
Keith Lowe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mythos25@live.com" =
target=3D"">mythos25@live.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d;">I suppose =
trappers catching
family pets are helping them out too</span></p><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><span style=3D"color: =
#1f497d;">&nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
<div>
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3.0pt 0cm
0cm 0cm; border-color: currentColor currentColor;"><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">From:</span></strong> <a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" =
target=3D"">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> [<a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" =
target=3D"">mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a>] <strong><span =
style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">On Behalf Of =
</span></strong><a href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca" =
target=3D"">rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca</a><br><strong><span =
style=3D"font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">Sent:</span></strong> Wednesday, March 18, 2015 =
1:24
PM<br><strong><span style=3D"font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">To:</span></strong> <a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" =
target=3D"">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br><strong><span =
style=3D"font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">Subject:</span></strong> Re: [NatureNS] Bobcats
starving in harsh Nova Scotia winter</p><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
</div>
</div><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; =
font-family: 'Times New
Roman','serif';">Predators like Bobcats always produce more young than =
the range
can carry Keith. </span></p><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; =
font-family: 'Times New
Roman','serif';">Every few winters a harsh one will come along and thin =
out the
population. </span></p><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; =
font-family: 'Times New
Roman','serif';">Natures way of ensure the survival of the species. =
</span></p><div>&nbsp;<br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; =
font-family: 'Times New
Roman','serif';">Trappers help Nature out by harvesting the surplus =
before the
harsh weather arrives. </span></p><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; =
font-family: 'Times New
Roman','serif';">Keeps the population numbers steady over a period of =
time.
</span></p><div>&nbsp;<br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; =
font-family: 'Times New
Roman','serif';">Same with deer and lots of other animals. Mice love it =
though
and </span></p><div>&nbsp;<br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; =
font-family: 'Times New
Roman','serif';">make love in safety all winter! =
</span></p><div>&nbsp;<br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; =
font-family: 'Times New
Roman','serif';">Enjoy the winter </span></p><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; =
font-family: 'Times New
Roman','serif';">Paul </span></p><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border: none; border-left: solid windowtext 1.0pt; =
padding:
0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: =
5.0pt;
border-color: currentColor currentColor currentColor blue;"><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span =
style=3D"font-size:
12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif';">On March 18, 2015 at =
11:54 AM
Keith Lowe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mythos25@live.com" =
target=3D"">mythos25@live.com</a>&gt; wrote: </span></p><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a =
href=3D"http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/bobcats-starving-in-hars=
h-nova-scotia-winter-1.2997173" =
target=3D"">http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/bobcats-starving-in-=
harsh-nova-scotia-winter-1.2997173</a></p><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>&nbsp;<br =
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