[NatureNS] Protected areas; ATV use

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Yeah, the majority of folks in any particular group are sensible, and a few=
 eejits can ruin the reputation of any group.

 

Sensible folks can educate one another, admit to making mistakes, mend ways=
, and still recognize that they can educate other sensible folks.

 

I shouldn=E2=80=99t have said =E2=80=9CCowboy,=E2=80=9D Paul.  That was unf=
airly labelling a group who doesn=E2=80=99t deserve it.

 

From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] =
On Behalf Of rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca
Sent: January 23, 2016 10:34 AM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Protected areas; ATV use

 

Well John that has been our observations on several trail groups I've 

been associated with over the years. ATVers are very helpful. 

I suspect closer to bigger centers Cowboys may be more plentiful 

although I was a Cowboy myself in my younger days. The real kind who 

worked with cows! 

The worst are bicycles  Those folks think they are better than other humans=
 on 

the trail and all should bow before them. but I guess its easier to stop an=
 ATV 

and get it up to speed than it is with a bicycles. And harder to get their =
hand in 

the pocket when funds are needed! 

Enjoy the winter 

Paul 

  


> On January 23, 2016 at 5:19 AM John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> wro=
te: 
> 
> 
> Hopefully, the ATV access debate will get resolved by sensible folks. 
> 
> We were at a joint session in Weymouth a couple of years ago with various=
 
> stakeholders regarding the future of the Silver River/New France lands. I=
t 
> wasn't too difficult to agree to maintain access on the main existing 
> trails, open no new trails, and work together to accommodate times and 
> places when species at risk and sensitive environments might be adversely=
 
> affected. Wasn't rocket science, but did require a little mutual respect.=
 
> Maybe that's easier to achieve in smaller communities where folks in one =

> camp know those in another! :-) 
> 
> By the way, another thing that environmentalists and ATV associations eas=
ily 
> agreed to was doing our damnedest to stop the depredations of the cowboys=
=2E 
> I suppose we could work together more to achieve that, but we have discus=
sed 
> the issue at times already. And I found that the ATV Association had good=
 
> suggestions. 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca=
] 
> On Behalf Of David & Alison Webster 
> Sent: January 22, 2016 7:59 PM 
> To: NatureNS@chebucto.ns.ca 
> Subject: [NatureNS] Protected areas; ATV use 
> 
> Dear All, Jan 22, 2016 
> I have noticed fair traffic in Voice of the People about ATV access. Can =

> someone bring me up to date on current practice ? 
> 
> For example: 
> 1) Are there any hiking trails in some or all of these areas ? 
> 2) If there are trails, who pays for clearing windfalls from the trails a=
nd 
> maintaining trail markers; a charity or tax dollars (directly or indirect=
ly) 
> ? 
> 3) Or are windfalls left to dispose of themselves naturally ? 
> 4) In event of fire is the standard practice to just let it burn itself o=
ut 
> until it extends beyond the protected area ? 
> 5) In event of accident or sudden illness how is the invalid moved from t=
he 
> protected area ? 
> 
> Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville 
> 
> 
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</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calib=
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ormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";co=
lor:#1F497D'>I shouldn=E2=80=99t have said =E2=80=9CCowboy,=E2=80=9D Paul. =
=C2=A0That was unfairly labelling a group who doesn=E2=80=99t deserve it.<o=
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t 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN=
-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> naturens-=
owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] <b>On Behalf Of=
 </b>rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca<br><b>Sent:</b> January 23, 2016 10:34 AM<br=
><b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [NatureNS] Prote=
cted areas; ATV use<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Well John that has been our o=
bservations on several trail groups I've <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>been associated with over the years. ATVers are very helpful. =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I suspect closer to bigger c=
enters Cowboys may be more plentiful <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal>although I was a Cowboy myself in my younger days. The real kind w=
ho <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>worked with cows! <o:p></=
o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The worst are bicycles&nbsp; Those =
folks think they are better than other humans on <o:p></o:p></p></div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal>the trail and all should bow before them. but I guess =
its easier to stop an ATV <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>an=
d get it up to speed than it is with a bicycles. And harder to get their ha=
nd in <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>the pocket when funds =
are needed! <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Enjoy the winter=
 <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Paul <o:p></o:p></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><br>&gt; On January 23, 2016 at 5:19 AM John and Nhung &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca">nhungjohn@eastlink.ca</a>&gt; wrote: <br>&gt; =
<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hopefully, the ATV access debate will get resolved by sen=
sible folks. <br>&gt; <br>&gt; We were at a joint session in Weymouth a cou=
ple of years ago with various <br>&gt; stakeholders regarding the future of=
 the Silver River/New France lands. It <br>&gt; wasn't too difficult to agr=
ee to maintain access on the main existing <br>&gt; trails, open no new tra=
ils, and work together to accommodate times and <br>&gt; places when specie=
s at risk and sensitive environments might be adversely <br>&gt; affected. =
Wasn't rocket science, but did require a little mutual respect. <br>&gt; Ma=
ybe that's easier to achieve in smaller communities where folks in one <br>=
&gt; camp know those in another! :-) <br>&gt; <br>&gt; By the way, another =
thing that environmentalists and ATV associations easily <br>&gt; agreed to=
 was doing our damnedest to stop the depredations of the cowboys. <br>&gt; =
I suppose we could work together more to achieve that, but we have discusse=
d <br>&gt; the issue at times already. And I found that the ATV Association=
 had good <br>&gt; suggestions. <br>&gt; <br>&gt; -----Original Message----=
- <br>&gt; From: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-=
owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">=
mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a>] <br>&gt; On Behalf Of David &amp;=
 Alison Webster <br>&gt; Sent: January 22, 2016 7:59 PM <br>&gt; To: <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:NatureNS@chebucto.ns.ca">NatureNS@chebucto.ns.ca</a> <br>&gt; S=
ubject: [NatureNS] Protected areas; ATV use <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Dear All, Jan=
 22, 2016 <br>&gt; I have noticed fair traffic in Voice of the People about=
 ATV access. Can <br>&gt; someone bring me up to date on current practice ?=
 <br>&gt; <br>&gt; For example: <br>&gt; 1) Are there any hiking trails in =
some or all of these areas ? <br>&gt; 2) If there are trails, who pays for =
clearing windfalls from the trails and <br>&gt; maintaining trail markers; =
a charity or tax dollars (directly or indirectly) <br>&gt; ? <br>&gt; 3) Or=
 are windfalls left to dispose of themselves naturally ? <br>&gt; 4) In eve=
nt of fire is the standard practice to just let it burn itself out <br>&gt;=
 until it extends beyond the protected area ? <br>&gt; 5) In event of accid=
ent or sudden illness how is the invalid moved from the <br>&gt; protected =
area ? <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>=
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