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e<i>: --001a1136b2d675e8d0052a2d0bbb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey David Currie, Cats may be crepuscular hunters though I don't know and am leery of making pronouncements after seeing the EC study by Richard Elliot! Fix cats, yes, and start barn surveys to reduce population number and keep them fed..not so hungry..and in at night. A start. Nick On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 5:27 PM, David Currie <david_currie@ns.sympatico.ca= > wrote: > Hi All > > We sometimes get caught up with the estimated numbers quoted from EC or > others as being totally accurate for some reason, though always expressed > in an estimate or within a certain range. I don=E2=80=99t have to tell th= is group > that science is based on fact with those facts extrapolated to give us so= me > idea. Cod numbers, seal numbers, feral cat numbers etc. to make a > comparison. Is the number of birds really that important other than it= =E2=80=99 a > lot and getting worse as free-roaming cats increase? Don=E2=80=99t we th= ink that > if we lose 350 million or 100 or 70 million land birds/small animals to > cats in Canada a year, it=E2=80=99s too many when we can avoid it? Do we = always > have to complain about collisions, habitat destruction etc. to lessen the > guilt we have about our pet cat? > > This is a human issue of attitude and it is important that we become more > responsible for our cats as we have with dogs. Cats are doing what they a= re > built to hunt extremely effectively and we are contributing to aiding an > invasive species that has a direct impact on our natural wildlife. > Relegating our pet cats to the house doesn=E2=80=99t mean a life in the c= loset, and > from what I understand from my friends, it develops a better =E2=80=9Cpet > experience=E2=80=9D where they are not killed, shot at, poisoned, scarred= or lost. > On the wildlife side, we humans need to take some responsibility here and > quit hiding behind the , my cat is =E2=80=9Ctoo old=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cto= o fat=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cdoesn=E2=80=99t climb > trees=E2=80=9D, is a =E2=80=9Cbush cat=E2=80=9D, (I=E2=80=99ve heard that= one) and =E2=80=9Cnever brings anything > home=E2=80=9D attitude that relieves them of the guilt they have. > > If we talk to the trap and neuter people, which I have, they are > experiencing a huge growth of unwanted cats in NS, there are no resources > to deal with it and a public attitude that pretty much encourages dumping > them. Burnside Park in Dartmouth, the TN people say, has 1000 feral cats = at > a minimum as the SPCA (located there) has no room so the people open the > car door and abandon them right there. They told me you could set a trap > anywhere there and catch animals daily. > > I suppose some roaming cats may very well develop a taste for rodents, an= d > I guess selective enough to not include, chipmunks, young hare, meadow > voles, Star-nosed Moles, amphibians or birds given the opportunity but we > humans seem to believe that cats, in order to enjoy their lives, need to = be > outdoors. I am encouraged to see Vancouver take a stand. > > ps...can someone tell me why keeping cats inside at night is an answer to > the problem or is that point so the cat doesn=E2=80=99t get hurt as easil= y? > > David Currie > > > --001a1136b2d675e8d0052a2d0bbb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Hey David Currie,<div><br></div><div>Cats may be crepuscul= ar hunters though I don't know and am leery of making pronouncements af= ter seeing the EC study by Richard Elliot!</div><div><br></div><div>Fix cat= s, yes, and start barn surveys to reduce population number and keep them fe= d..not so hungry..and in at night.=C2=A0</div><div>A start.</div><div><br><= /div><div>Nick</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail= _extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Dav= id Currie <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:david_currie@ns.sympatico= .ca" target=3D"_blank">david_currie@ns.sympatico.ca</a>></span> wrote:<b= r><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:= 1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri';COLOR:#000000"> <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibr= i";FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri';COLOR:#000000"> <div>Hi All</div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>We sometimes get caught up with the estimated numbers quoted from EC o= r=20 others as being totally accurate for some reason, though always expressed i= n an=20 estimate or within a certain range. I don=E2=80=99t have to tell this group= that science=20 is based on fact with those facts extrapolated to give us some idea. Cod=20 numbers, seal numbers, feral cat numbers etc. to make a comparison.=C2=A0 I= s the=20 number of birds really that important other than it=E2=80=99 a lot and gett= ing worse as=20 free-roaming=C2=A0 cats increase? Don=E2=80=99t we think that if we lose 35= 0 million or=20 100 or 70 million land birds/small animals to cats in Canada a year, it=E2= =80=99s too=20 many when we can avoid it? Do we always have to complain about collisions,= =20 habitat destruction etc. to lessen the guilt we have about our pet cat?</di= v> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>This is a human issue of attitude and it is important that we become m= ore=20 responsible for our cats as we have with dogs. Cats are doing what they are= =20 built to hunt extremely effectively and we are contributing to aiding an=20 invasive species that has a direct impact on our natural wildlife.=C2=A0=20 Relegating our pet cats to the house doesn=E2=80=99t mean a life in the clo= set, and from=20 what I understand from my friends, it develops a better =E2=80=9Cpet experi= ence=E2=80=9D where=20 they are not killed, shot at, poisoned, scarred or lost. On the wildlife si= de,=20 we humans need to take some responsibility here and quit hiding behind the = , my=20 cat is =E2=80=9Ctoo old=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Ctoo fat=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cdoesn= =E2=80=99t climb trees=E2=80=9D, is a =E2=80=9Cbush cat=E2=80=9D, (I=E2=80= =99ve heard=20 that one) and =E2=80=9Cnever brings anything home=E2=80=9D attitude that re= lieves them of the=20 guilt they have.</div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>If we talk to the trap and neuter people, which I have, they are=20 experiencing a huge growth of unwanted cats in NS, there are no resources t= o=20 deal with it and a public attitude that pretty much encourages dumping them= .=20 Burnside Park in Dartmouth, the TN people say, has 1000 feral cats at a min= imum=20 as the SPCA (located there) has no room so the people open the car door and= =20 abandon them right there. They told me you could set a trap anywhere there = and=20 catch animals daily.</div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>I suppose some roaming cats may very well develop a taste for rodents,= and=20 I guess selective enough to not include, chipmunks, young hare, meadow vole= s,=20 Star-nosed Moles, amphibians or birds given the opportunity but we humans s= eem=20 to believe that cats, in order to enjoy their lives, need to be outdoors. I= am=20 encouraged to see Vancouver take a stand.</div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>ps...can someone tell me why keeping cats inside at night is an answer= to=20 the problem or is that point so the cat doesn=E2=80=99t get hurt as easily?= =C2=A0 </div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>David Currie=20 <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibr= i";FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">= =C2=A0</div> <div style=3D"BACKGROUND:#f5f5f5">=C2=A0</div></div></div></div></div></div= ></div></div> </blockquote></div><br></div> --001a1136b2d675e8d0052a2d0bbb--
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