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Index of Subjects --001a11339de8420cb0052af33e00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 yes, paying more for food is the key to being fair to farmers, communities and nature. We get food at ridiculously low cost..PEI potatoes, valley apples. The weed near a cereal crop does least damage as cereal germinates first and preempts smaller seeded, later starting weeds. It's not so much for human health reasons, Organic should be best for natural world or do we need another label..naturesafe? Nick On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 9:35 AM, rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca < rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: > The reason Herbicides are so much better from a farmers point of view > David is that herbicides kill the weeds close to the planted crop. > The weeds in the middle of the rows are not very harmful and are easy > to control by cultivation. > However the weeds close to the plants cause the reduction in yields. > They rob moisture, nutrients sunlight and harbour insects but there > is no way a farmer can remove them by cultivation. short of the old hand > hoe. > In addition they make harvesting more difficult by not allowing the crop > to dry out in the short days of fall. > Farmers tell me herbicides give the best return on investment of > all their inputs. But maybe we would like to pay more for food! > Enjoy the thaw > Paul > > > On February 4, 2016 at 8:33 AM David Patriquin <davidgpatriquin@yahoo.ca> > wrote: > > > > Incororating resistance to Roundup & now a couple of other herbicides > (because weeds also becoming resistant) in GMO crops has one huge effect on > wildlife that I don't see discussed much or at all: the complete > obliteration of weedy species over massive areas, not seen much in NS but > go to Que and Ont where field after large field of GMO soybean, maize and > cannola are grown, and they are virtually dead except for the crops; even > after the crops are taken off they remain free of weedy species. Under > traditional management, weeds were set back by tillage to allow crop to get > established, then a diversity of weedy species grow up in the understory, > flowering and providing food for pollinators, seeds for wildlife.. and > after the crop is taken off, groundcover. No more so. The farmers like the > GMO crops because of the simplified management, but with selection of > appropriate cultivars, some mechanical management, reducing some types of > tillage...weeds can be controlled without eliminating them and our farm > fields can be more supportive of wildlife. > > Glyphosate is toxic to plants and bacteria, so has huge effects on the > microbiotia also.. > > Agreed, Nick: " As naturalists, impacts on natural world are our major > responsibility." > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Nicholas Hill <fernhillns@gmail.com> > *To:* "naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 4, 2016 7:32 AM > *Subject:* Re: [NatureNS] Public consultation re use of pesticide > Atrazine in Canada: a re-evaluation > > David, > no confusion here. Listserve focus is on nature not human safety. Atrazine > article deals with human safety concerns not biodiversity. > If we want to take a stand on pesticides it would be for their > biodiversity implications of which there are tons. Roundup is an example > but there are many > showing impacts of other pesticides on native bees and other pollinators. > Nick > > http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1890/04-1291/abstract > http://www.jstor.org/stable/40983228?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:02 PM, David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com > > wrote: > > Hi Nick, > The item dealt with Atrazine not Roundup. Best not to confuse > matters. > Dave W > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Nicholas Hill <fernhillns@gmail.com> > *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 03, 2016 8:12 PM > *Subject:* Re: [NatureNS] Public consultation re use of pesticide > Atrazine in Canada: a re-evaluation > > Gyphosate (roundup) going under radar despite the lethal impacts of > amphibian larvae (ca 98% kill) from the surfactant used to get the > pesticide across the plant's cuticle. > Not supposed to be used near water courses but amphibians are in swampy > woods. > As naturalists, impacts on natural world are our major responsibility. > Physicians (royal...Ontario. .forget the association) did take a stand > against recreational and household usage of pesticide on the basis of human > health risk. We can stand up for nature. > Nick > On Feb 3, 2016 5:59 PM, "N Robinson" < nrobbyn@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > A member of the Quebec branch of the Sierra Club just sent me an email > regarding Canada's Pest Management Regulatory Agency doing a re-evaluation > of the pesticide Atrazine (announced December 15 2015). > > Some of you, more knowledgeable than I, might want to send them some > feedback. > > > http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/cps-spc/pest/part/consultations/_rev2015-11/rev2015-11-eng.php > Re-evaluation Note REV2015-11, Special Review of Atrazine: Proposed > Decision for Consultation > Nancy > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7441 / Virus Database: 4522/11542 - Release Date: 02/02/16 > > > > > > --001a11339de8420cb0052af33e00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">yes, paying more for food is the key to being fair to farm= ers, communities and nature.<div>We get food at ridiculously low cost..PEI = potatoes, valley apples.</div><div>The weed near a cereal crop does least d= amage as cereal germinates first and preempts smaller seeded, later startin= g weeds.</div><div>It's not so much for human health reasons, Organic s= hould be best for natural world or do we need another label..naturesafe?<br= >Nick<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, = Feb 4, 2016 at 9:35 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca" target= =3D"_blank">rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca</a> <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"= mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca" target=3D"_blank">rita.paul@ns.sympatico.= ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg= in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u> =20 =20 <div> =20 <div> The reason Herbicide