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--Apple-Mail=_76D972F6-7D34-459E-B2DA-FDA4747D445E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Predictably, I would vote for an apostrophe on the Scots=92 Pine name. = Also I love the commentary from George and Dave. Cheers from Jim, in = Wolfville. Begin forwarded message: > From: George Forsyth <g4syth@gnspes.ca> > Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Fossil of oldest pine tree discovered in NS = quarry > Date: March 11, 2016 at 5:08:05 PM AST > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >=20 > We have Pinus sylvestris in Nova Scotia, and whether it is Scot's, = Scotch or Scorched, it is an introduced and naturalized species. The = fossil deposits show that Nova Scotia (New Scotland) and Old Scotland = must have been closer physically during the carboniferous period, we = have since drifted apart physically but still share some cultural links.=20= >=20 >=20 > George Forsyth >=20 > On 10 March 2016 at 16:18, Randy Lauff <randy.lauff@gmail.com> wrote: > I suspect the location of the quarry wasn't mentioned so pilfering of = fossils would not happen. I can imagine it to be very frustrating to = researchers who find their site discovered, and fossils, which could = have provided so much information, adorning mantels around the province. >=20 > There are laws concerning the collection of fossils...I think that the = gist of the law is that if you can pick it up with your bare hands, you = can keep it, but you're not allowed to dig or pry them out. Special = permission is required in protected areas, such as our national parks. >=20 > Randy >=20 > _________________________________ > RF Lauff > Way in the boonies of > Antigonish County, NS. >=20 > On 10 March 2016 at 15:00, David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com> = wrote: > Hi All, Mar 10, 2016 > I wonder if this is just some lark. > The statement ""The fossils show that wildfires raged through the = earliest pine forests and probably shaped the evolution of this = important tree." seems like a rather large extrapolation from one = charred twig. > My 1994 geology map of Nova Scotia shows Cretaceous exposures only = offshore and consisting of clay, silica sand and (sometimes) lignite. > It is possible that some Cretaceous exposures on land have been = discovered since then but plant fragments could be preserved only in = shales (lignite perhaps) and why would shale be quarried ? > As to the name of the pine it would appear to be Scorched Pine. At = one time abundant in Scorched Land; called Scotland after they all the = pines there got scorched off. > Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville > ----- Original Message ----- > From: D W Bridgehouse > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:43 PM > Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Fossil of oldest pine tree discovered in NS = quarry >=20 > Interesting article Ken ! > =20 > =93Dr Falcon-Lang plans to return to the quarry this summer to recover = more specimens.=94 >=20 > It would be interesting to know when he comes and then learn of the = location =96 could it possibly be CB or Cumberland Co where coal has = been mined ?? Would nt he need permission to remove fossils from NS or = is that grandfathered from 5years ago . > =20 > Is there a diff between Scots Pine and Scotch Pine ?? we have scotch = pine in NS do we not ?? > =20 > db >=20 > From: Ken J MacAulay > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:22 PM > To: mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: [NatureNS] Fossil of oldest pine tree discovered in NS quarry > =20 > Apparently this was discovered five years ago and has only now been = analyzed. There is no mention of the location of the quarry in the = article. > =20 > http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35767640 > =20 > =20 > =20 > Ken MacAulay > Port Mouton, NS > =20 > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7442 / Virus Database: 4540/11788 - Release Date: = 03/10/16 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_76D972F6-7D34-459E-B2DA-FDA4747D445E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html = charset=3Dwindows-1252"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: = after-white-space;">Predictably, I would vote for an apostrophe on the = Scots=92 Pine name. Also I love the commentary from George and = Dave. Cheers from Jim, in Wolfville.<br><div><br><div>Begin = forwarded message:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, = 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span = style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';">George Forsyth <<a = href=3D"mailto:g4syth@gnspes.ca">g4syth@gnspes.ca</a>><br></span></div>= <div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, = 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span = style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';"><b>Re: [NatureNS] Fossil of oldest = pine tree discovered in NS quarry</b><br></span></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, = 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span = style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';">March 11, 2016 at 5:08:05 PM = AST<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span = style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>To: = </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';"><a = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br></s= pan></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span = style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, = 1.0);"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';"><a= = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br></s= pan></div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>We have Pinus sylvestris in = Nova Scotia, and whether it is Scot's, Scotch or Scorched, it is an = introduced and naturalized species. The fossil deposits show that Nova = Scotia (New Scotland) and Old Scotland must have been closer physically = during the carboniferous period, we have since drifted apart physically = but still share some cultural links. <br><br><br></div>George = Forsyth<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div = class=3D"gmail_quote">On 10 March 2016 at 16:18, Randy Lauff <span = dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:randy.lauff@gmail.com" = target=3D"_blank">randy.lauff@gmail.com</a>></span> = wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 = .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I = suspect the location of the quarry wasn't mentioned so pilfering of = fossils would not happen. I can imagine it to be very frustrating to = researchers who find their site discovered, and fossils, which could = have provided so much information, adorning mantels around the = province.<div><br></div><div>There are laws concerning the collection of = fossils...I think that the gist of the law is that if you can pick it up = with your bare hands, you can keep it, but you're not allowed to dig or = pry them out. Special permission is required in protected areas, such as = our national parks.</div><div><br></div><div>Randy</div></div><div = class=3D"gmail_extra"><br = clear=3D"all"><div>_________________________________<br>RF Lauff<br>Way = in the boonies of<br>Antigonish County, NS.</div><div><div class=3D"h5"> <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 10 March 2016 at 15:00, David & = Alison Webster <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com"= target=3D"_blank">dwebster@glinx.com</a>></span> = wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 = .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u> <div dir=3D"ltr" bgcolor=3D"#ffffff"> <div>Hi All, =20 Mar 10, = 2016</div> <div> I wonder if this is just some lark. </div> <div> The statement "<span = style=3D"TEXT-TRANSFORM:none;BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);TEXT-INDENT= :0px;DISPLAY:inline!important;FONT:18px/23px = Helmet,Freesans,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;WHITE-SPACE:normal;FLOAT:none;L= ETTER-SPACING:normal;COLOR:rgb(64,64,64);WORD-SPACING:0px">"The=20 fossils show that wildfires raged through the earliest pine forests and = probably=20 shaped the evolution of this important tree." seems like a rather large=20= extrapolation from one charred twig. </span></div> <div><span = style=3D"TEXT-TRANSFORM:none;BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);TEXT-INDENT= :0px;DISPLAY:inline!important;FONT:18px/23px = Helmet,Freesans,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;WHITE-SPACE:normal;FLOAT:none;L= ETTER-SPACING:normal;COLOR:rgb(64,64,64);WORD-SPACING:0px"> &nb= sp;=20 My 1994 geology map of Nova Scotia shows Cretaceous exposures only = offshore and=20 consisting of clay, silica sand and (sometimes) lignite. </span></div> <div><span = style=3D"TEXT-TRANSFORM:none;BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);TEXT-INDENT= :0px;DISPLAY:inline!important;FONT:18px/23px = Helmet,Freesans,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;WHITE-SPACE:normal;FLOAT:none;L= ETTER-SPACING:normal;COLOR:rgb(64,64,64);WORD-SPACING:0px"> &nb= sp;=20 It is possible that some Cretaceous exposures on land have been = discovered=20 since then but plant fragments could be preserved only in shales = (lignite=20 perhaps) and why would shale be quarried ? </span></div> <div><span = style=3D"TEXT-TRANSFORM:none;BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);TEXT-INDENT= :0px;DISPLAY:inline!important;FONT:18px/23px = Helmet,Freesans,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;WHITE-SPACE:normal;FLOAT:none;L= ETTER-SPACING:normal;COLOR:rgb(64,64,64);WORD-SPACING:0px"></span><span = style=3D"TEXT-TRANSFORM:none;BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);TEXT-INDENT= :0px;DISPLAY:inline!important;FONT:18px/23px = Helmet,Freesans,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;WHITE-SPACE:normal;FLOAT:none;L= ETTER-SPACING:normal;COLOR:rgb(64,64,64);WORD-SPACING:0px"> &nb= sp;=20 As to the name of the pine it would appear to be Scorched Pine. At one = time=20 abundant in Scorched Land; called Scotland after they all the pines = there got=20 scorched off.</span></div> <div><span = style=3D"TEXT-TRANSFORM:none;BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);TEXT-INDENT= :0px;DISPLAY:inline!important;FONT:18px/23px = Helmet,Freesans,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;WHITE-SPACE:normal;FLOAT:none;L= ETTER-SPACING:normal;COLOR:rgb(64,64,64);WORD-SPACING:0px">Yt,=20 Dave Webster, Kentville</span></div> <blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px = solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px"= dir=3D"ltr"><div> <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>=20 <a title=3D"d.bridgehouse@ns.sympatico.ca" = href=3D"mailto:d.bridgehouse@ns.sympatico.ca" target=3D"_blank">D W = Bridgehouse</a> </div> <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a = title=3D"naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" = target=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a> </div> <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 10, 2016 = 12:43=20 PM</div> <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] Fossil = of oldest=20 pine tree discovered in NS quarry</div> <div><br></div> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"> <div>Interesting article Ken !</div> <div> </div> <div><font face=3D"Helvetica" color=3D"#404040">=93Dr Falcon-Lang = plans to return to the=20 quarry this summer to recover more specimens.=94</font></div> <div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"><br>It=20 would be interesting to know when he comes and then learn of the = location =96=20 could it possibly be CB or Cumberland Co where coal has been = mined ??=20 Would nt he need permission to remove fossils from NS or is that=20 grandfathered from 5years ago .</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;">Is there a=20 diff between Scots Pine and Scotch Pine ?? we have scotch pine in NS = do we not=20 ??</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;">db<br><br> <div style=3D"font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family: = Calibri; font-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: = none;"><b>From:</b>=20 <a title=3D"kenmacaulay@eastlink.ca" = href=3D"mailto:kenmacaulay@eastlink.ca" target=3D"_blank">Ken J=20 MacAulay</a> </div> <div style=3D"FONT:10pt tahoma"> <div style=3D"BACKGROUND:#f5f5f5"> <div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:22 PM</div> <div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" = target=3D"_blank">mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>=20 </div> <div><b>Subject:</b> [NatureNS] Fossil of oldest pine tree discovered = in NS=20 quarry</div></div></div> <div> </div></div> <div style=3D"font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family: = Calibri; font-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"> <div> <div style=3D"font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family: = Calibri; font-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: = none;">Apparently=20 this was discovered five years ago and has only now been = analyzed. There=20 is no mention of the location of the quarry in the = article.</div></div> <div> <div style=3D"font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family: = Calibri; font-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: = none;"> </div></div> <div> <div style=3D"font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family: = Calibri; font-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: = none;"><a href=3D"http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35767640" = target=3D"_blank">http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35767640</a>= </div></div> <div> <div style=3D"font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family: = Calibri; font-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: = none;"> </div></div> <div> <div style=3D"font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family: = Calibri; font-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: = none;"> </div></div> <div> <div style=3D"font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family: = Calibri; font-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: = none;"> </div></div> <div> <div style=3D"font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family: = Calibri; font-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: = none;">Ken=20 MacAulay</div></div> <div> <div style=3D"font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family: = Calibri; font-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: = none;">Port=20 Mouton, NS</div></div> <div> <div style=3D"font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family: = Calibri; font-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: = none;"> </div></div></div></div></div></div></div><a></a> </div><p align=3D"left">No virus found in this=20 message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com/" = target=3D"_blank">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 2016.0.7442 / Virus=20 Database: 4540/11788 - Release Date: 03/10/16</p></blockquote></div> </blockquote></div><br></div></div></div> </blockquote></div><br></div> </div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_76D972F6-7D34-459E-B2DA-FDA4747D445E--
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