[NatureNS] Beech tree seedlings

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We have a very old beech, about a metre diameter breast height, that is on
a property line in South Berwick and is not noticeably infected. All the
beech in the woodland that once would have been filled with our old beech's
cohort are junk..infected usually just after the whip stage and dying
before 15cm DBH. Imagine if grandparents of the junk beech had not been cut.

There is a collection of beech almost our ancient one's size along Miner's
Marsh, on that south slope that goes up to Belcher Street just up from the
Catholic Church. These have had a hard time in recent years but they
probably were set up before the disease came. It does seem that when the
beech gets past a given diameter (30cm?), its main trunk is mostly
resistant; you'll see chancres on the upper smaller branches but not the
main trunk.

Jamie Simpson wrote an article about this syndrome and resistance. Some
trees seem to be resistant. It is hard to tell in the field because of
factors like wind direction and proximity and infection density etc. I
think we have a couple of resistants on our property but I wouldnt want to
inoculate and test them. We are seeing hemlocks spread into former beech
woods and it makes sense and has been  written on that this long-lived
shade tolerant queen would replace the diseased beech..that or sugar maple.
Donna Crossland had some resistant beeches developed by Forestry Canada, if
I recall right.

The diseased trees keep at it. They are shade resistant but they seem to
get out some nuts so young diseased beech keep stepping up and replacing
the dead.

Miner's Marsh old growth beech slope is a valuable spot ..only one I know
like it..and we should alert Kentville town that one of the houses is
dumping fill and waste down this slope from Belcher street, much to his
neighbour's dismay.

Nick

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:53 PM, derek rowter <drowt@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On a related note:
> Does anyone know if mature, possibly old growth Beeches are susceptible to
> the insect/fungal disease that damages and causes the typical "knobbly"
> bark of NS Beeches. I have a small lot riddled with Beeches of various ages
> and most are affected. There are however a few, quite large specimens with
> atypically smooth bark and healthy appearance.
> Could it be they were of sufficient age before infestation to be
> resistant?  how would one determine if this is the cae as opposed to the
> recently reported genetic variants which are unaffected?
>
> Derek Rowter
>
> ------------------------------
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Beech tree seedlings
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> From: pce@accesswave.ca
> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 10:48:59 -0300
>
> Good luck with the Beeches. Here in Waverley they are being wiped out by
> an introduced beetle, the beech leaf-mining weevil (Orchestes fagi)
> <https://www.invasiveinsects.ca/blmw/blmw.html>. Many of our trees have
> been defoliated year after year and are now dead.
>
> Peter Payzant
>
>
>
> On 2016-04-04 10:28 AM, Doug Linzey wrote:
>
> We have a lot of beech here on the North Mountain, and every fall there
> are hordes of beech nuts on the ground. Two springs ago (2014) we had
> hundreds of beech seedlings, many in the driveway, something I'd not seen
> in the previous eight years we'd lived here. I surmised that it takes
> exactly the right conditions to trigger germination and that it doesn't
> happen every year.
>
> Cheers,
> Doug
>
> On 03-Apr-16 3:07 PM, rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
>
> Hi All
> This afternoon I went for a drive with the intention of
> going for a walk near some of my favorite fishing spots.
> The cold rain changed my plan but I drove a couple of roads
> that I hadn't driven before. Somewhere between Mahone Bay and New
> Gerrnany.
> On one road I passed a wood lot. A big lot, maybe 100 ha as a guess, It
> had been harvested 15 - 20 years ago - again a guess - and was growing up
> in small hardwood. Mostly birch and popular about 3 - 4 m in height. but
> all over
> the lot were small beech trees - about 1 m in height. Easy to pick out as
> last years leaves were
> still attached.
> It was too cold and wet to investigate further but certainly an
> interesting lot.
> Most be some special conditions to promote the beech regrowth.
> Enjoy the cold of the early spring.
> Paul
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">We have a very old beech, about a metre diameter breast he=
ight, that is on a property line in South Berwick and is not noticeably inf=
ected. All the beech in the woodland that once would have been filled with =
our old beech&#39;s cohort are junk..infected usually just after the whip s=
tage and dying before 15cm DBH. Imagine if grandparents of the junk beech h=
ad not been cut.<div><br></div><div>There is a collection of beech almost o=
ur ancient one&#39;s size along Miner&#39;s Marsh, on that south slope that=
 goes up to Belcher Street just up from the Catholic Church. These have had=
 a hard time in recent years but they probably were set up before the disea=
se came. It does seem that when the beech gets past a given diameter (30cm?=
), its main trunk is mostly resistant; you&#39;ll see chancres on the upper=
 smaller branches but not the main trunk.</div><div><br></div><div>Jamie Si=
mpson wrote an article about this syndrome and resistance. Some trees seem =
to be resistant. It is hard to tell in the field because of factors like wi=
nd direction and proximity and infection density etc. I think we have a cou=
ple of resistants on our property but I wouldnt want to inoculate and test =
them. We are seeing hemlocks spread into former beech woods and it makes se=
nse and has been =C2=A0written on that this long-lived shade tolerant queen=
 would replace the diseased beech..that or sugar maple. Donna Crossland had=
 some resistant beeches developed by Forestry Canada, if I recall right.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>The diseased trees keep at it. They are shade resist=
ant but they seem to get out some nuts so young diseased beech keep steppin=
g up and replacing the dead.</div><div><br></div><div>Miner&#39;s Marsh old=
 growth beech slope is a valuable spot ..only one I know like it..and we sh=
ould alert Kentville town that one of the houses is dumping fill and waste =
down this slope from Belcher street, much to his neighbour&#39;s dismay.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Nick</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:53 PM, derek rowter <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:drowt@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">drowt@=
hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><div dir=3D"ltr">On a related note:<br>Does anyone know if mature, pos=
sibly old growth Beeches are susceptible to the insect/fungal disease that =
damages and causes the typical &quot;knobbly&quot; bark of NS Beeches. I ha=
ve a small lot riddled with Beeches of various ages and most are affected. =
There are however a few, quite large specimens with atypically smooth bark =
and healthy appearance.<br>Could it be they were of sufficient age before i=
nfestation to be resistant?=C2=A0 how would one determine if this is the ca=
e as opposed to the recently reported genetic variants which are unaffected=
?<br>=C2=A0<br>Derek Rowter<br>=C2=A0<br><div><hr>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] B=
eech tree seedlings<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" targe=
t=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:pce@acc=
esswave.ca" target=3D"_blank">pce@accesswave.ca</a><br>Date: Mon, 4 Apr 201=
6 10:48:59 -0300<br><br>
 =20
   =20
 =20
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    Good luck with the Beeches. Here in Waverley they are being wiped
    out by an introduced beetle, the <a href=3D"https://www.invasiveinsects=
.ca/blmw/blmw.html" target=3D"_blank">beech
      leaf-mining weevil (Orchestes fagi)</a>. Many of our trees have
    been defoliated year after year and are now dead.<br>
    <br>
    Peter Payzant<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 2016-04-04 10:28 AM, Doug Linzey
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote>We
      have a lot of beech here on the North Mountain, and every fall
      there are hordes of beech nuts on the ground. Two springs ago
      (2014) we had hundreds of beech seedlings, many in the driveway,
      something I&#39;d not seen in the previous eight years we&#39;d lived
      here. I surmised that it takes exactly the right conditions to
      trigger germination and that it doesn&#39;t happen every year.
      <br>
      <br>
      Cheers,
      <br>
      Doug
      <br>
      <br>
      On 03-Apr-16 3:07 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca</a> wrote:
      <br>
      <blockquote>Hi All
        <br>
        This afternoon I went for a drive with the intention of
        <br>
        going for a walk near some of my favorite fishing spots.
        <br>
        The cold rain changed my plan but I drove a couple of roads
        <br>
        that I hadn&#39;t driven before. Somewhere between Mahone Bay and
        New Gerrnany.
        <br>
        On one road I passed a wood lot. A big lot, maybe 100 ha as a
        guess, It
        <br>
        had been harvested 15 - 20 years ago - again a guess - and was
        growing up
        <br>
        in small hardwood. Mostly birch and popular about 3 - 4 m in
        height. but all over
        <br>
        the lot were small beech trees - about 1 m in height. Easy to
        pick out as last years leaves were
        <br>
        still attached.
        <br>
        It was too cold and wet to investigate further but certainly an
        interesting lot.
        <br>
        Most be some special conditions to promote the beech regrowth.
        <br>
        Enjoy the cold of the early spring.
        <br>
        Paul
        <br>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
      <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br></div><div><br>
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