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Wow...I guess I'm one of the "Ivory Tower Gang?" But I live in the country,
cut down and chop my own wood, tend a huge garden...so that makes me a
"Country Folk".
Even if starlings are beneficial to individuals, that is not the big
picture issue.
Randy
_________________________________
RF Lauff
Way in the boonies of
Antigonish County, NS.
On 5 April 2016 at 12:52, rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca <
rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Good point Nickolas!
> Us country folks had a different take on Starlings than the
> Ivory Tower gang.
> They are a very useful birds for consuming a large number of grubs in the
> spring time.
> A few days harrowing for potatoes or barley is sufficient to see their
> worth.
> And they do provide lunch for various raptors.
> Opportunists from away were never in my bad books!
> Starlings never seem to be so plentiful in the country except in the fall
> at some places
> like Belle Isle where they gather.
> Enjoy the spring snow!
> Paul
>
> On April 5, 2016 at 12:07 PM Nicholas Hill <fernhillns@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ian didn't use the word invasive. He was looking at these species as
> opportunists from away, much like ourselves, When even the opportunists are
> down, something may be up.
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Randy Lauff <randy.lauff@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Well, a decline in any invasive is a good thing, but it would still be
> interesting to find out why. I'm wondering if better building techniques
> provide fewer nesting opportunities for them.
>
> Is there a decline in Europe, or other places where these birds have been
> introduced?
>
> Randy
>
> _________________________________
> RF Lauff
> Way in the boonies of
> Antigonish County, NS.
>
> On 9 March 2016 at 10:28, Ian McLaren <I.A.McLaren@dal.ca> wrote:
>
> All:
>
> I was asked by a colleague about trends in Eur. Starling, and was
> surprised to see that they had steadily declined to about half their late
> 1960s population levels throughout the N. Am. Breeding Bird Survey area,
> and similarly locally (NS + PEI). Along with the sharper decline of House
> Sparrow, does this indicate that our human-dominated landscapes have
> become inhospitable to these highly tolerant immigrants? Seems almost as
> scary as the declines of many less immediately impacted species.
>
>
> Ian
>
>
> Ian McLaren
>
>
>
>
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like Belle Isle where they gather.=20
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<br>RF Lauff
<br>Way in the boonies of
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