[NatureNS] managing invasives and naturalised species-why do we

Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:55:52 -0300 (ADT)
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Well Peter the difference is in my limi=
ted view</span>
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">is that Browns and Rainbows spread via =
salt water<br/></span>
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">and CP are unable to do this. Browns ha=
ve been reported<br/></span>
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">from PEI where they were never introduc=
ed. Rainbows<br/></span>
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">on PEI took about 50 years to make an i=
mpact from<br/></span>
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">an angling view. So we can expect both =
to spread<br/></span>
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">slowly but surely. CP on the other hand=
 are like a grass<br/></span>
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">fire in the spring. They take up every =
corner quickly!<br/></span>
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">The angling regulations in NS don&#39;t=
 favor the fishing of<br/></span>
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">either Browns or Rainbows. Night time a=
nd salt water<br/></span>
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">are prime times for sport fishing eithe=
r and both come into<br/></span>
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">fresh water late in the year and leave =
early.</span>
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">So I suspect the total numbers of eithe=
r is under estimated.<br/></span>
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> But the laws </span>
   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">are made by 9 - 5 ers so I guess that w=
ouldn&#39;t change!<br/></span>
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">But what do I know but I e</span>
   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">njoy the spring<br/></span>
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Hope you do too!<br/></span>
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Paul<br/></span>
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   <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">&#160;</span>
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   On April 21, 2017 at 8:02 AM Hubcove@aol.com wrote:
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    I always find it interesting that the chain pickerel comes up often as =
an invasive species but I have yet to see any complaints or comments on bro=
wn trout.
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    Peter Stow
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    Hubbards
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     In a message dated 2017-04-21 5:40:00 A.M. Atlantic Daylight Time, dcr=
ossland@eastlink.ca writes:
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olor: blue; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid;">
     <span style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: small; b=
ackground-color: transparent;">I have to give you credit in your strategic =
thinking and knowledgeable depth<br/>of retrospective!&#160; If only certai=
n departments would manage these fisheries,<br/>they might soon be over-fis=
hed and the ecological nightmare created by naive<br/>or selfish sports fis=
heries could be mitigated somewhat.&#160; Why IS there a bag<br/>limit on a=
ny invasive fish??&#160; <br/><br/>Then again, I suppose we could extend th=
is argument to the bag limits for<br/>ring-necked pheasant (noisy squawking=
 birds, though tasty... but not better<br/>than our woodcock and grouse) an=
d the naturalized deer (deer that incur<br/>great damage to our hardwood st=
ands, Canada Yew (with Cancer-fighting<br/>agents), etc, impacting the succ=
essional trajectory of our natural forests,<br/>yet we spend a lot of tax d=
ollars managing the herd and bag limits geared to<br/>keep them around).&#1=
60; I&#39;ll take a moose steak any day over venison.&#160; <br/><br/>Maybe=
 we can add it to the election platform soon to unfold.&#160; I think we<br=
/>need an entire ecologically-based political platform in the next round.&#=
160; Our<br/>natural resources and native biodiversity are in trouble, both=
 on the land<br/>and in the water.&#160; Then there&#39;s climate change ad=
ded to the mix... ecology<br/>is &#34;messy&#34; and growing more complicat=
ed.<br/><br/>Donna<br/><br/>-----Original Message-----<br/>From: naturens-o=
wner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]<br/>On Behalf Of=
 John and Nhung<br/>Sent: April-19-17 7:52 AM<br/>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.=
ca<br/>Subject: RE: [NatureNS] widowed goose and tasty tidbits<br/><br/>My =
point was that if more people recognize pickerel as tasty, more people<br/>=
will eat them (rather than throwing them back, for instance!).&#160; <br/><=
br/>I wish NS Fisheries would lift the &#34;bag&#34; limit on smallmouth ba=
ss, as well.<br/>They are another disaster that doesn=E2=80=99t belong here=
.&#160; But here they are.<br/><br/>Enthusiastically-pursued fisheries have=
 a long history of reducing target<br/>populations ... <br/><br/>-----Origi=
nal Message-----<br/>From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-o=
wner@chebucto.ns.ca]<br/>On Behalf Of Donna Crossland<br/>Sent: April 19, 2=
017 7:29 AM<br/>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br/>Subject: RE: [NatureNS] wid=
owed goose and tasty tidbits<br/><br/>Oh goodness!&#160; I meant the GEESE =
are tasty, not than the chain pickerel! No,<br/>no, no! Perhaps the pickere=
l are tasty, too, but you&#39;ll not likely ever hear<br/>me say anything p=
ositive with regards to that species.&