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Please let us know once it is published and available for purchase. 

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> On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:59 AM, Hebda, Andrew J <Andrew.Hebda@novascotia.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> FW with some marginal)  species accounts and NS perspective  .. within the year.
> 
> A
> ________________________________________
> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] on behalf of Randy Lauff [randy.lauff@gmail.com]
> Sent: April-21-17 9:23 AM
> To: NatureNS
> Subject: New Fish Book? was Re: [NatureNS] managing invasives and naturalised species-why do we do it?
> 
> Well, that was a teaser! What new fish book, Andrew?
> 
> FW and SW? Species accounts? You suggest a history of fish management? Due out in...?
> 
> Randy
> 
> _________________________________
> RF Lauff
> Way in the boonies of
> Antigonish County, NS.
> 
> On 21 April 2017 at 09:00, Hebda, Andrew J <Andrew.Hebda@novascotia.ca<mailto:Andrew.Hebda@novascotia.ca>> wrote:
> Hi Peter
> 
> Where Brown trout have been introduced, there seems to be some displacement of other fish species, but no evident elimination of the, Although the two strains were introduced here in the late 19th century, they have not expanded their range as dramatically (and quickly) as the chain pickerel.  A friend who was doing fish monitoring in Cape Breton noted one large pool where he found 4 species of salmonids, partitioning the pool based on size.  Atlantic Salmon, Brook Trout, Rainbow Trout and Brown Trout.  I suspect you would not encounter that with the pickerel.
> 
> As an aside, in the work I am doing on the new fish book, I came across salmon stocking records for Nova Scotia in 1879.  The Bedford Fish Hatchery was noted to have released 1,7400,00 fry and planted 1,400,000 eggs,, for a total of fish planted since its inception  of 4,535,00 fry... so perhaps our fish genetics may  be a bit more variable than we thought.  (note that they had only released Atlantic Salmon to that point)
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> [naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>] on behalf of Hubcove@aol.com<mailto:Hubcove@aol.com> [Hubcove@aol.com<mailto:Hubcove@aol.com>]
> Sent: April-21-17 8:02 AM
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] managing invasives and naturalised species-why do we do it?
> 
> I always find it interesting that the chain pickerel comes up often as an invasive species but I have yet to see any complaints or comments on brown trout.
> Peter Stow
> Hubbards
> 
> In a message dated 2017-04-21 5:40:00 A.M. Atlantic Daylight Time, dcrossland@eastlink.ca<mailto:dcrossland@eastlink.ca> writes:
> I have to give you credit in your strategic thinking and knowledgeable depth
> of retrospective!  If only certain departments would manage these fisheries,
> they might soon be over-fished and the ecological nightmare created by naive
> or selfish sports fisheries could be mitigated somewhat.  Why IS there a bag
> limit on any invasive fish??
> 
> Then again, I suppose we could extend this argument to the bag limits for
> ring-necked pheasant (noisy squawking birds, though tasty... but not better
> than our woodcock and grouse) and the naturalized deer (deer that incur
> great damage to our hardwood stands, Canada Yew (with Cancer-fighting
> agents), etc, impacting the successional trajectory of our natural forests,
> yet we spend a lot of tax dollars managing the herd and bag limits geared to
> keep them around).  I'll take a moose steak any day over venison.
> 
> Maybe we can add it to the election platform soon to unfold.  I think we
> need an entire ecologically-based political platform in the next round.  Our
> natural resources and native biodiversity are in trouble, both on the land
> and in the water.  Then there's climate change added to the mix... ecology
> is "messy" and growing more complicated.
> 
> Donna
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>]
> On Behalf Of John and Nhung
> Sent: April-19-17 7:52 AM
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Subject: RE: [NatureNS] widowed goose and tasty tidbits
> 
> My point was that if more people recognize pickerel as tasty, more people
> will eat them (rather than throwing them back, for instance!).
> 
> I wish NS Fisheries would lift the "bag" limit on smallmouth bass, as well.
> They are another disaster that doesn’t belong here.  But here they are.
> 
> Enthusiastically-pursued fisheries have a long history of reducing target
> populations ...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>]
> On Behalf Of Donna Crossland
> Sent: April 19, 2017 7:29 AM
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Subject: RE: [NatureNS] widowed goose and tasty tidbits
> 
> Oh goodness!  I meant the GEESE are tasty, not than the chain pickerel! No,
> no, no! Perhaps the pickerel are tasty, too, but you'll not likely ever hear
> me say anything positive with regards to that species.  I am dismayed by the
> introduction of chain pickerel to our lakes.  The small mouthed bass and
> chain pickerel are altering our fresh water ecosystems in profound ways.  I
> am told we can expect nearly "silent springs" as they voraciously consume
> our frogs and toads on the lake edges.  They are about to spread to the last
> wild places remaining.  It's sad, very sad.  We shall mourn the trout and
> remnant salmon populations.
> 
> Donna Crossland
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>]
> On Behalf Of Hebda, Andrew J
> Sent: April-18-17 10:15 PM
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Subject: RE: [NatureNS] widowed goose and tasty tidbits
> 
> 
> The taste and angling value of the pickerel is high... However its
> introduction into watershed has been disasterous.
> 
> Back in 1949 Dan Livingstone sampled lakes and rivers in Nova Scotia, coming
> up with the first comprehensive list of freshwater fish for the province.
> John Gilhen and I were joined by him 50 years later and we re-sampled many
> of the same bodies of water.  Where the chain pickerel had been introduced,
> or spread to, the diversity of fish went from 7-11 species to 2-3..
> independent of water chemistry, geology or any other measurable factor
> 
> 
> A Hebda
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> [naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>] on
> behalf of John and Nhung [nhungjohn@eastlink.ca<mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca>]
> Sent: April-18-17 9:58 PM
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Subject: RE: [NatureNS] widowed goose and tasty tidbits
> 
> I wish more Nova Scotians appreciated pickerel.  The Vietnamese gang down
> Yarmouth way turns this ugly-looking critter into various dishes, all
> infinitely more interesting than haddock!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>]
> On Behalf Of Donna Crossland
> Sent: April 18, 2017 8:50 PM
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Subject: [NatureNS] widowed goose and tasty tidbits
> 
> That's a hilarious (well sort of) tale of the widowed urban goose. She
> likely few back to Toronto?
> 
> I'm with Lance and the Cape Bretoners. This expanding species is quite
> delicious baked in orange juice, wild rice and cranberries, etc.  Now if
> only I could acquire a taste for glossy buckthorn salad.
> 
> Donna
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>]
> On Behalf Of Fred Schueler
> Sent: April-18-17 12:43 PM
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh KIngfisher
> 
>> On 4/18/2017 11:11 AM, Laviolette, Lance wrote:
>> “Truck loads from TO” reminds me of a story...
> 
> * ...on our 2002 James Bay Expedition - http://pinicola.ca/g2003b.htm - we
> found a very tame single Canada Goose at a boatlunch ramp way north in
> Quebec - and the sad story we told was that she'd mated with a northern
> Quebec male during the winter, had followed him north, and he'd been taken
> out by the spring Goose hunt, leaving her an urban widow in the wilderness.
> 
> fred.
> ==================================================
> 
>> ...Paul. About 40 years ago
>> there was an effort made to ‘reintroduce’ Canada Geese in Cape Breton
>> near CBHNP. They trucked in a bunch of TO geese and let them loose on
>> a lake. Now these geese were quite use to humans having been rounded
>> up in the friendly confines of the TO shoreline. It wasn’t long before
>> the local residents of that area of CB realized that. There was good
>> eating in those parts while the geese lasted…
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lance
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *Lance Laviolette*
>> 
>> Glen Robertson, Ontario
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:*naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>] *On Behalf Of
>> *rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca<mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca>
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2017 8:26 AM
>> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh KIngfisher
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Isn't it fun about the Canada Geese Doug?
>> 
>> One group wanted to introduce Wild Turkeys and
>> 
>> all the Naturalists got against it - made plenty of noise
>> 
>> so WT went away.
>> 
>> Another group wanted non migratory Canada Geese so
>> 
>> they learned from the WT fiasco and just brought a couple of
>> 
>> truck loads from TO and let them go - no fuss - no muss!
>> 
>> Now they are in every puddle around and the Naturalists
>> 
>> love them! Things work in wonderful ways!
>> 
>> Enjoy the spring
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> 
>>> On April 16, 2017 at 11:17 PM Doug Linzey <doug@fundymud.com<mailto:doug@fundymud.com>
>> <mailto:doug@fundymud.com<mailto:doug@fundymud.com>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This afternoon at Miner's Marsh, a kingfisher and an impressive
>>> number of Tree Swallows. We watched a pair of Canada Geese mating
>>> (I'd never witnessed the preceding head-bobbing routine before). And
>>> a lone Pied-billed Grebe was calling somewhat plaintively, clearly in
>>> search of a mate.
>>> 
>>> Doug Linzey
>> 
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