[NatureNS] ID on Snails on The Walls of Fort On Georges Island

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Yes, they are everywhere on George's - and not just on the walls. They were crawling all over the blooming thistles, too. That struck me as ... uncomfortable. 

Cheers,
Joanne

> On Jul 31, 2017, at 9:19 PM, Fred Schueler <bckcdb@istar.ca> wrote:
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>> On 7/31/2017 4:39 PM, Fred Schueler wrote:
>> you can send the photos to me. Most likely juvenile Cepaea hortensis.
> 
> * and I've seen the photos (on facebook), and can affirm that they're little Cepaea hortensis - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-lipped_snail - "White-lipped snail - or garden banded snail, scientific name Cepaea hortensis, is a medium-sized species…"
> 
> Gayle MacLean replied that Andrew Hebda had id'd them as 'Cepaea hortensis' or 'Cepaea nemoralis', but he couldn't be sure, because he could not see 'the lip of the shell'...he said if it was nemoralis, it is not common here... and I replied that you would need to see the lip of around the aperture of mature shells (as indicated by the English name used in the wiki article) to be sure between C. hortensis and C. nemoralis, but given the rarity of C. nemoralis in the Maritimes, and the tendency of C. hortensis to have populations mostly of unbanded yellow shells, I'm pretty sure that's what they are. There are lots of interesting questions about this genus, and it would be good if a big sample of shells were to be deposited in the NS Museum...
> 
> Gayle said it was interesting that they were so widespread over all the rock walls of this historic fort located on Georges Island, in the Halifax Harbour. Maybe, because of it's location, & with not much human visitation, these snails thrived... they were EVERYWHERE, over all the outside rock walls of this historic Fort Charlotte, there on Georges Island., which is, not open to the public at all...but was, this year, for the 'Tall Ships' visitation & regatta, commemorating Canada's 150th... Maybe Andrew will take a trip over and check it out...
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>>> On 7/31/2017 11:50 AM, GayleMacLean wrote:
>>>  Yesterday, I had a fabulous visit to Georges Island to tour historic Fort Charlotte.
>>> I was surprised to see that the outside rock walls of the buildings were covered with small snails. They reminded me of periwinkles really, but were the colour of cream to a brighter yellow, the largest I saw was no more than a half an inch.
>>> It's not like the walls were wet or damp, or they didn't appear to be to the touch, anyway.
>>> Can anyone give me any information about them? I have photos if anyone wants me to send them to you.
>>> I also looked for the famous Garter Snakes, but saw none.
>>> Probably, too many people roaming around.
>>> Thank you very much in advance.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Gayle MacLean
>>> Dartmouth
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