Re[4]: [NatureNS] Woods walk in North Alton

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Hi Paul,
     Because many littles add up to a lot. And I don't buy the ideas of=20
moving to Mars.
Yt, DW, Kentville

------ Original Message ------
From: "rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca" <rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca>
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: 9/2/2017 9:16:08 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Woods walk in North Alton

>Why are you worried about CO2 Dave?
>That's the staff of life that we know!
>A little more will never hurt.
>Enjoy the last few days of summer.
>Paul
>>On September 1, 2017 at 2:52 PM David <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Ron,
>>     Woodlots, as with most matters, are best managed with an open mind=
=20
>>so one is free to react to circumstances as they arise; unconstrained=20
>>by mental dogma. For many years I took the leave it alone approach on=20
>>one woodlot and that turned out to be a disaster; many large trees=20
>>over and hidden in a jungle of fir regrowth such that it would be=20
>>foolhardy to walk there without a chainsaw.
>>     By extracting only selected trees for firewood from overstocked=20
>>areas one has the highly unusual situation of having your cake and=20
>>eating it too; heat with zero net carbon release (and in best=20
>>situations probably negative carbon release).  When trees are freed of=20
>>excessive competition in an otherwise  favorable context they will=20
>>often capture more carbon per year than the two or three initial trees=20
>>combined.
>>     Much has been written about forests capturing carbon permanently=20
>>if they are left alone; nope. Forests burn and whatever dies in a=20
>>forest will eventually be released as carbon. The only way to have=20
>>that cake and eat it too is by careful thinning of overstocked stands.
>>     And like it or not, a woodlot may require some cutting when trees=20
>>blow over across roads. In the North Alton lot trees are still going=20
>>over which were weakened in Dec 2013 and by Arthur in 2014.
>>Yt, DW, Kentville
>>
>>------ Original Message ------
>>From: "John and Nhung" < nhungjohn@eastlink.ca>
>>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>>Sent: 8/31/2017 1:23:07 PM
>>Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Woods walk in North Alton
>>
>>>I find that arguments over nature vs. manicured, (unnecessarily)=20
>>>managed property can happen even within family!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Otherwise, our TREPA has been encouraging municipal governments to=20
>>>strengthen protections for shoreline properties for some time. =20
>>>Municipality of Yarmouth has had a by-law in place since 2014,=20
>>>limiting any developments within 40 feet of a water body to the bare=20
>>>minimum necessary.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I think it has had some effect, but not enough, and enforcement is a=20
>>>challenge.  I long for the day when we will have adequate provincial=20
>>>regulations limiting what people can do to shoreline zones above the=20
>>>high water mark.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Guess we=E2=80=99ll need a few more blue-green algae blooms or muddy lak=
es=20
>>>before that happens.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca=20
>>>[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Ron Wilson
>>>Sent: August 31, 2017 12:52 PM
>>>To: Nature NS
>>>Cc: David Webster
>>>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Woods walk in North Alton
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Reminds me of a gentleman who was recently looking to purchase our=20
>>>house and cherished woodlot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I was walking him through the woods trails and he commented on what=20
>>>trees needed to come down ( strike 1)
>>>
>>>Then his wife commented how they may be able to get the ride on mower=20
>>>up into the woods to keep the weeds down ( strike 2)
>>>
>>>The on the way out he said he would be damning up the brook to create=20
>>>a pond - I suggested that he may need a water course alteration=20
>>>permit for such a thing and his reply was " no- you just do it - if=20
>>>you get caught you just get a slap on the wrist- they won't do=20
>>>nothing anyways" (strike 3)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Fortunately another couple with a keen interest in nature are=20
>>>purchasing the property. Such a relief.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Ron Wilson
>>>
>>>Somerset NS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:45 PM, David <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Dear All,                                Aug 28, 2017
>>>
>>>     I had a pleasant and unhurried walk yesterday with a friend along=
=20
>>>most of the pick and shovel roads in the North Alton woodlot. And the=20
>>>timing could not have better.
>>>
>>>     As the saying goes "Its an ill wind that blows no good". Perhaps=20
>>>due to the cool summer with frequent rains, the early morning shower=20
>>>on Sunday or the combination (or unknown causes; e.g. low=20
>>>temperatures have likely have made snakes less active leading to more=20
>>>Froglets) those roads were alive with small Wood Frogs (about 1 cm=20
>>>long) and Fleshy Fungi.
>>>
>>>     Typically I see from one to five adult Wood Frogs there per year=20
>>>but have previously never seen any young ones. And there are usually=20
>>>some fleshy fungi in season but the diversity yesterday was highly=20
>>>exceptional.
>>>
>>>     I made most of these roads more than 30 years ago and have rarely=
=20
>>>been back there in the last 10 (so I sometimes don't recognize=20
>>>sections); trees grow and disturbed soil heals so these roads may=20
>>>have entered an "old growth" woods road stage with near maximum=20
>>>diversity. As a bonus I noticed a new plant Osmunda regalis; Royal=20
>>>Fern (drawing on memory, the two page printout is hiding somewhere=20
>>>and that computer is down).
>>>
>>>     For those who live nearby and have time to absorb and appreciate=20
>>>natural magic you could do worse than visit this woodlot just after a=20
>>>light rain. On average, SE is in, NW is out; a compass helps in=20
>>>cloudy weather. If you get turned around follow roads to near the SE=20
>>>corner to find a road which leads Easterly to an adjacent lot which=20
>>>has a wide graveled road leading  NW to out.
>>>
>>>     And I have an axe to grind. I want to protect these woods from=20
>>>ever becoming a residential or commercial wasteland and some support=20
>>>from friends of nature might help to swing the balance. And the=20
>>>threat is real. I had a call last year from a potential buyer who was=20
>>>disappointed to learn it was still  in woodland (he had seen it on=20
>>>the property database) but looked on the bright with a "it would not=20
>>>take long to flatten it" comment.
>>>
>>>Yt, DW, Kentville
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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 </head><body><div>Hi Paul,</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Because many littles ad=
d up to a lot. And I don't buy the ideas of moving to Mars.</div><div>Yt, D=
W, Kentville</div>
<div><br /></div>
<div>------ Original Message ------</div>
<div>From: "<a href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca">rita.paul@ns.sympa=
tico.ca</a>" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca">rita.paul@ns.=
sympatico.ca</a>&gt;</div>
<div>To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=
</a></div>
<div>Sent: 9/2/2017 9:16:08 AM</div>
<div>Subject: Re: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Woods walk in North Alton</div><div><br =
/></div>
<div id=3D"xe1f80125b2104f4"><blockquote cite=3D"454983789.15875.1504354568=
475.open-xchange@webmail.bellaliant.net" type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite2">

=20
  <div>
   Why are you worried about CO2 Dave?
  </div>=20
  <div>
   That's the staff of life that we know!<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   A little more will never hurt.<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   Enjoy the last few days of summer.<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   Paul<br />
  </div>=20
  <blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 0px; border-left-co=
lor: blue; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; position: rela=
tive;" type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite">
   On September 1, 2017 at 2:52 PM David &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dwebster@gli=
nx.com">dwebster@glinx.com</a>&gt; wrote:
   <br />
   <br />=20
   <div>
    Hi Ron,
   </div>=20
   <div>
    =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Woodlots, as with most matters, are best managed with an=
 open mind so one is free to react to circumstances as they arise; unconstra=
ined by mental dogma. For many years I took the leave it alone approach on=
 one woodlot and that turned out to be a disaster; many large trees over and =
hidden in a jungle of fir regrowth such that it would be foolhardy to walk =
there without a chainsaw.
   </div>=20
   <div>
    =C2=A0 =C2=A0 By extracting only selected trees for firewood from overs=
tocked areas one has the highly unusual situation of having your cake and e=
ating it too; heat with zero net carbon release (and in best situations pro=
bably negative carbon release). =C2=A0When trees are freed of excessive com=
petition in an otherwise =C2=A0favorable context they will often capture mo=
re carbon per year than the two or three initial trees combined.
   </div>=20
   <div>
    =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Much has been written about forests capturing carbon perm=
anently if they are left alone; nope. Forests burn and whatever dies in a f=
orest will eventually be released as carbon. The only way to have that cake =
and eat it too is by careful thinning of overstocked stands.
   </div>=20
   <div>
    =C2=A0 =C2=A0 And like it or not, a woodlot may require some cutting wh=
en trees blow over across roads. In the North Alton lot trees are still goi=
ng over which were weakened in Dec 2013 and by Arthur in 2014.=C2=A0
   </div>=20
   <div>
    Yt, DW, Kentville
   </div>=20
   <div>
    =C2=A0
   </div>=20
   <div>
    ------ Original Message ------
   </div>=20
   <div>
    From: "John and Nhung" &lt;
    nhungjohn@eastlink.ca&gt;
   </div>=20
   <div>
    To:=20
    naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
   </div>=20
   <div>
    Sent: 8/31/2017 1:23:07 PM
   </div>=20
   <div>
    Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Woods walk in North Alton
   </div>=20
   <div>
    =C2=A0
   </div>=20
   <div id=3D"x0a33309f77a0462">=20
    <blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite">=20
     <div class=3D"WordSection1">=20
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d; font-family: 'C=
alibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt;">I find that arguments over nature v=
s. manicured, (unnecessarily) managed property can happen even within famil=
y!=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0</span></p>=20
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d; font-family: 'C=
alibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt;">=C2=A0</span></p>=20
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d; font-family: 'C=
alibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt;">Otherwise, our TREPA has been encou=
raging municipal governments to strengthen protections for shoreline proper=
ties for some time.=C2=A0 Municipality of Yarmouth has had a by-law in plac=
e since 2014, limiting any developments within 40 feet of a water body to t=
he bare minimum necessary.=C2=A0 </span></p>=20
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d; font-family: 'C=
alibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt;">=C2=A0</span></p>=20
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d; font-family: 'C=
alibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt;">I think it has had some effect, but =
not enough, and enforcement is a challenge.=C2=A0 I long for the day when=
 we will have adequate provincial regulations limiting what people can do to =
shoreline zones above the high water mark.</span></p>=20
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d; font-family: 'C=
alibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt;">=C2=A0</span></p>=20
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d; font-family: 'C=
alibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt;">Guess we=E2=80=99ll need a few more =
blue-green algae blooms or muddy lakes before that happens.</span></p>=20
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d; font-family: 'C=
alibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt;">=C2=A0</span></p>=20
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-family: 'Tahoma','=
sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></strong><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;"> <a href=3D"mailto:naturens-o=
wner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"m=
ailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a>] <st=
rong>On Behalf Of </strong>Ron Wilson<br /><strong>Sent:</strong> August 31=
, 2017 12:52 PM<br /><strong>To:</strong> Nature NS<br /><strong>Cc:</stron=
g> David Webster<br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [NatureNS] Woods walk i=
n North Alton</span></p>=20
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
      <div>=20
       <div>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">David</p>=20
       </div>=20
       <div>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
       </div>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Reminds me of a gentleman who was recently lo=
oking to purchase our house and cherished woodlot.</p>=20
       <div>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
        <div>=20
         <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I was walking him through the woods trails=
 and he commented on what trees needed to come down ( strike 1)</p>=20
        </div>=20
        <div>=20
         <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Then his wife commented how they may be abl=
e to get the ride on mower up into the woods to keep the weeds down ( strik=
e 2)</p>=20
        </div>=20
        <div>=20
         <p class=3D"MsoNormal">The on the way out he said he would be damn=
ing up the brook to create a pond - I suggested that he may need a water co=
urse alteration permit for such a thing and his reply was " no- you just do =
it - if you get caught you just get a slap on the wrist- they won't do not=
hing anyways" (strike 3)</p>=20
        </div>=20
        <div>=20
         <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
        </div>=20
        <div>=20
         <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Fortunately another couple with a keen inte=
rest in nature are purchasing the property. Such a relief.</p>=20
        </div>=20
        <div>=20
         <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
        </div>=20
        <div>=20
         <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ron Wilson</p>=20
        </div>=20
        <div>=20
         <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Somerset NS=C2=A0</p>=20
         <div>=20
          <div>=20
           <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
          </div>=20
         </div>=20
        </div>=20
       </div>=20
      </div>=20
      <div>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
       <div>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:45 PM, David &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com">dwebster@glinx.com</a>&gt; wrote:</p>=
=20
        <div>=20
         <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dear All, =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0Aug 28, 2017</p>=20
         <div>=20
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I had a pleasant and unhurri=
ed walk yesterday with a friend along most of the pick and shovel roads in=
 the North Alton woodlot. And the timing could not have better.</p>=20
         </div>=20
         <div>=20
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 As the saying goes "Its an i=
ll wind that blows no good". Perhaps due to the cool summer with frequent r=
ains, the early morning shower on Sunday or the combination (or unknown cau=
ses; e.g. low temperatures have likely have made snakes less active leading =
to more Froglets) those roads were alive with small Wood Frogs (about 1 cm =
long) and Fleshy Fungi.</p>=20
         </div>=20
         <div>=20
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Typically I see from one to=
 five adult Wood Frogs there per year but have previously never seen any you=
ng ones. And there are usually some fleshy fungi in season but the diversit=
y yesterday was highly exceptional.=C2=A0</p>=20
         </div>=20
         <div>=20
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I made most of the=
se roads more than 30 years ago and have rarely been back there in the last =
10 (so I sometimes don't recognize sections); trees grow and disturbed soi=
l heals so these roads may have entered an "old growth" woods road stage wi=
th near maximum diversity. As a bonus I noticed a new plant Osmunda regalis=
; Royal Fern (drawing on memory, the two page printout is hiding somewhere=
 and that computer is down).</p>=20
         </div>=20
         <div>=20
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 For those who live nearby an=
d have time to absorb and appreciate natural magic you could do worse than=
 visit this woodlot just after a light rain. On average, SE is in, NW is out=
; a compass helps in cloudy weather. If you get turned around follow roads=
 to near the SE corner to find a road which leads Easterly to an adjacent lo=
t which has a wide graveled road leading =C2=A0NW to out.</p>=20
         </div>=20
         <div>=20
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 And I have an axe to grind.=
 I want to protect these woods from ever becoming a residential or commercia=
l wasteland and some support from friends of nature might help to swing the =
balance. And the threat is real. I had a call last year from a potential b=
uyer who was disappointed to learn it was still =C2=A0in woodland (he had s=
een it on the property database) but looked on the bright with a "it would=
 not take long to flatten it" comment.=C2=A0</p>=20
         </div>=20
         <div>=20
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yt, DW, Kentville</p>=20
         </div>=20
         <div>=20
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0</p>=20
         </div>=20
        </div>=20
       </div>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
      </div>=20
     </div>=20
    </blockquote>=20
   </div>=20
  </blockquote>=20
  <div>
   <br />=C2=A0
  </div>
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