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Index of Subjects --_000_B9C42CE3776E4256B164F1E548022462dalca_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, the two are not the same species though. The first one 1016088, Pe= dicia, is definitely not the one I find here =97 note the spotted wings, an= d that it is from Oregon (few species manage to straddle the Rocky Mtn barr= ier). The fact that the second one is not identified by a Latin name on Bu= gGuide means that a proper ID has either not been requested or has not been= established by any knowledgable expert that Bugguide trusts. It looks r= ather bland and orangey and the wing veins are very pale com[pared to the o= nes I see here, though color depends on lighting. Note that it is missing = two legs. I=92d still lean to Tipula paludosa. If you are into digital photography a= nd can catch one, put it in an empty pill vial in the freezer for ~10 minut= es, which will immobilize it but not kill it. Tip it out and you then have= ~1-2 min to photograph it before it warms up again and flies off. Steve On Sep 24, 2017, at 5:06 PM, David&Jane Schlosberg <dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico= .ca<mailto:dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca>> wrote: Yes, thanks Tipulidae does seem right. Here=92s the link for the =93orange= =94 ones:http://bugguide.net/node/view/1016088. Orhttp://bugguide.net/node/= view/1324875. They don=92t look very orange in some of the pics. Also la= belled Tipulidae. Jane From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> [= mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Stephen Shaw Sent: September 24, 2017 3:19 PM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] orange crane flies, perhaps? Hi Jane, We usually get large numbers emerging here in September too, 2=94 would be = about right, sounds like yours but the color would be dull grayish-buff, no= t orange. I=92m not sure what 'orange crane fly' is, but recall years ago = deciding that ours was one of two European species that have colonized Cana= da and part of USA, and I think I settled on Tipula paludosa (common Europe= an crane fly), but which is very similar to the other alien T. oleracea (ma= rsh crane fly). Go to the useful (with pics) Crane Flies of Pennsylvania c= atalogue http://iz.carnegiemnh.org/cranefly/ and near the end under Tipula check out these two species for the picture o= f their distinguishing feature (the separation of the compound eyes seen fr= om underneath), mentioned by Stephen Luk; you may need a hand magnifier len= s. I=92d be interested to learn if it checks out. Steve (Hfx) On Sep 24, 2017, at 12:42 PM, David&Jane Schlosberg <dschlosb-g@ns.sympatic= o.ca<mailto:dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca>> wrote: We=92ve had unusually large numbers of crane flies in our grass the past we= ek or so. They fly up when I walk through the grass. From the photos on bugguide.net<http://bugguide.net/>, I=92m thinking orang= e crane fly. Is that a reasonable assumption? They have beige bodies and = a wingspan of about 2 inches. Jane --_000_B9C42CE3776E4256B164F1E548022462dalca_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <D4F43A22B4588740860189F2D1F54AD0@CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DWindows-1= 252"> </head> <body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-lin= e-break: after-white-space;"> Thanks, the two are not the same species though. The first one 101608= 8, Pedicia, is definitely not the one I find here =97 note the spotted wing= s, and that it is from Oregon (few species manage to straddle the Rocky Mtn= barrier). The fact that the second one is not identified by a Latin name on BugGuide means that a proper ID has e= ither not been requested or has not been established by any knowledgable ex= pert that Bugguide trusts. It looks rather bland and oran= gey and the wing veins are very pale com[pared to the ones I see here, though color depends on lighting. Note that = it is missing two legs. <div><br> </div> <div>I=92d still lean to Tipula paludosa. If you are into digital pho= tography and can catch one, put it in an empty pill vial in the freezer for= ~10 minutes, which will immobilize it but not kill it. Tip it out an= d you then have ~1-2 min to photograph it before it warms up again and flies off.</div> <div>Steve<br> <br> <div> <div>On Sep 24, 2017, at 5:06 PM, David&Jane Schlosberg <<a href=3D"= mailto:dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca">dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca</a>> wrote= :</div> <br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type=3D"cite"> <div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"font-family: He= lvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-we= ight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; t= ext-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: norm= al; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"> <div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1;"> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> Yes, thanks Tipulidae does seem right. Here=92s the link for the =93o= range=94 ones:<a href=3D"http://bugguide.net/node/view/1016088" style=3D"co= lor: purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://bugguide.net/node/view/101= 6088</a>. Or<a href=3D"http://bugguide.net/node/view/1324875" style=3D"colo= r: purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://bugguide.net/node/view/13248= 75</a>. They don=92t look very orange in some of the pics. Also = labelled Tipulidae.<o:p></o:p></div> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> Jane<o:p></o:p></div> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> <o:p> </o:p></div> <div> <div style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225= , 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> <b>From:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"m= ailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" style=3D"color: purple; text-decoratio= n: underline;">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a><span class=3D"Apple-conver= ted-space"> </span>[<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" s= tyle=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:naturens-owner@c= hebucto.ns.ca</a>]<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Stephen Sh= aw<br> <b>Sent:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>September 24= , 2017 3:19 PM<br> <b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"mai= lto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: under= line;">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br> <b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Natu= reNS] orange crane flies, perhaps?<o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> <o:p> </o:p></div> <div> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> Hi Jane,<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> We usually get large numbers emerging here in September too, 2=94 would be = about right, sounds like yours but the color would be dull grayish-buff, no= t orange. I=92m not sure what 'orange crane fly' is, but recall years= ago deciding that ours was one of two European species that have colonized Canada and part of USA, and I think I settled = on Tipula paludosa (common European crane fly), but which is very similar t= o the other alien T. oleracea (marsh crane fly). Go to the useful (wi= th pics) Crane Flies of Pennsylvania catalogue <o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> <cite><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-style: normal;"= ><a href=3D"http://iz.carnegiemnh.org/cranefly/" style=3D"color: purple; te= xt-decoration: underline;">http://iz.carnegiemnh.org/cranefly/</a></span></= cite><br> and near the end under Tipula check out these two species for the picture o= f their distinguishing feature (the separation of the compound eyes seen fr= om underneath), mentioned by Stephen Luk; you may need a hand magnifie= r lens.<o:p></o:p></div> <div> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> <o:p> </o:p></div> </div> <div> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> I=92d be interested to learn if it checks out.<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> <o:p> </o:p></div> </div> <div> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> Steve (Hfx)<o:p></o:p></div> <div> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> <o:p> </o:p></div> </div> <div> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> <o:p> </o:p></div> <div> <div> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> On Sep 24, 2017, at 12:42 PM, David&Jane Schlosberg <<a href=3D"mail= to:dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca" style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: und= erline;">dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> <br> <br> <o:p></o:p></div> <blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"> <div> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> <span lang=3D"EN-CA">We=92ve had unusually large numbers of crane flies in = our grass the past week or so. They fly up when I walk through the grass.&n= bsp; </span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> <span lang=3D"EN-CA">From the photos on<span class=3D"apple-converted-space= "> </span><a href=3D"http://bugguide.net/" style=3D"color: purple; tex= t-decoration: underline;"><span style=3D"color: rgb(149, 79, 114);">bugguid= e.net</span></a>, I=92m thinking orange crane fly. Is that a reasonable assumption? They have beige bodies and a wingsp= an of about 2 inches. </span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;"> <span lang=3D"EN-CA">Jane</span></div> </div> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> <br> </div> </body> </html> --_000_B9C42CE3776E4256B164F1E548022462dalca_--
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