RE: [NatureNS] Nocturnal Migration for the 4th Week of October

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 Hello John and all:
With the winds we have, it's amazing the equipment holds up as it does! I s=
ee why it has to come down. Thanks for relating those details. Migration is=
 one of the wonders of the world! I don't think we can learn too much about=
 it.

These current vagrant birds might not even leave via the normal migration r=
outes, they might not know the routes here. Some of Phil Taylor's (and othe=
rs) work is giving hints about the learning of routes that at least some sp=
ecies go through, such as the Blackpoll warbler hatch year birds zig-zaggin=
g the province before setting out, and then taking a different route than t=
he adults; an apparently safer route. I also wonder how much is taught by t=
he parents, or just being in a migrating flock.
The frequency and intensity and sheer SIZE of some of the storm systems we =
are experiencing with climate changes does have a huge impact on migration.=
 Mega-storms are one of the predictions of climate change models; we've alr=
eady seen many changes in a relatively short period of time. Even without c=
limate change, the hurricane season happens right at the same time all thos=
e birds are travelling. For some, it can be a boost on their way, but I thi=
nk for many it's a disaster, especially with bird numbers way down for many=
 species.

Yes, thankfully we have ebird and the Facebook pages to help fill in some b=
lanks.
Looking forward to Spring and the reports happening again as the birds retu=
rn!
all the best,=C2=A0

Carmel
    On Monday, November 6, 2017, 10:44:10 AM AST, John Kearney <john.kearne=
y@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: =20
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Hi Carmel and all,

Thank you for your interest and support for my nocturnal migration studies.=
 I very much appreciate feedback and discussion on this work.

 =C2=A0

It has been a rough autumn for long-distance migrants. Hurricanes Harvey, I=
rma, and Maria had huge impacts on stop-over and wintering habitats in Texa=
s, Louisiana, Florida, and the Caribbean. And now we had this late October =
storm that drove birds far north of their destinations in South America and=
 the Caribbean. These storm-related impacts of climate change are just begi=
nning to be researched, and there are not many studies about the strategies=
 and survival rates of storm-swept birds. However, the few studies we have =
indicate that birds face an up-hill struggle in getting themselves back on =
track.

 =C2=A0

Since the vagrants from our recent fallout have dispersed since their initi=
al arrival, it likely that the continued operation of my monitoring station=
s would have yielded little new information on these birds. The monitoring =
stations sample relatively small areas of the sky overhead and the number o=
f records greatly diminishes as the density of migration decreases. Nonethe=
less, I agree with you that it would be interesting to monitor into Novembe=
r. My main concern at this point is the protection of my monitoring equipme=
nt. With the onset of colder temperatures and higher winds in October, I ge=
nerally start to dismantle my remote monitoring stations just after 15 Octo=
ber. Near freezing temperatures shorten battery run-times and can damage re=
cording equipment. With the loss of foliage, the microphones are more vulne=
rable to driving rain and the station is more detectable to animals that li=
ke to chew or otherwise investigate new things in their environment. It is =
my hope that there will be more weather-resistant and more easily replaceab=
le equipment in the future.

 =C2=A0

As you indicate, I believe that eBird will be the best source for documenti=
ng the movements of vagrants in the wake of this fallout. The Nova Scotia F=
acebook page has also become an important source of information from a much=
 broader spectrum of bird enthusiasts.

 =C2=A0

Thanks again!

 John

 =C2=A0

From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] =
On Behalf Of Carmel Smith
Sent: November-05-17 14:18
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Nocturnal Migration for the 4th Week of October

 =C2=A0

Hi John,

 =C2=A0

It's unfortunate that the winds forecast necessitated the take-down of the =
monitoring equipment! It would be amazing to find out more about how the fa=
llout birds leave. Questions such as: When they leave, answering questions =
of how long they hang on in the province after landing; What routes they ta=
ke to leave; How they leave--whether there is a mass outflow or do they jus=
t straggle along as they leave?=C2=A0

I also wonder how the familiarity of the territory affects how they leave? =
In other words, we have no reason to believe--as far as I can tell--that th=
e birds which have ended up here have ever been to this area. Some of them =
perhaps, but the fact they end up here in this situation wouldn't have any =
bearing on where these individuals have their breeding grounds. Does famili=
arity with the territory influence how swiftly they can recover and find th=
eir way back on a track to their normal wintering grounds? The Magnolias in=
 your last report, are they back on track quickly because they are individu=
als who were breeding here? Were they swept in from a nearer area than all =
the catbirds, tanagers, grosbeaks, etc.?

All questions I ponder... and have to say, your last reports gave a glimpse=
...but how much more we could learn if the stations were still up and we co=
uld see more of their migration, since they are still here. The reports are=
 still coming in, and as people move away from the hotspots and check other=
 areas, they are discovering more birds in pockets where they find suitable=
 cover and food. These areas are not always right at the coast, though ofte=
n within several km of the ocean. I hope the data being accumulated will be=
 examined for these facts as well (where the birds found a spot to recover =
and how they move out from there--ebird being a major data source for this)=
. Though the lack of birders--except for those who frequent the hotspots an=
d check out areas already reported to harbour vagrants--will mean many are =
missed. At least until they end up in one of the funnels in the Southwest; =
hopefully the diligence of birders in the exit areas will give a good snaps=
hot of the departure patterns.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Which brings me back to my original thought--how awesome it would be to be =
able to have nocturnal migration records of their movements!=C2=A0

John, are there any stations still in operation?

 =C2=A0

thanks again for your dedicated work!

Carmel Smith

Midville Branch, L'burg County, NS

 =C2=A0

On Sunday, November 5, 2017, 1:32:52 PM AST, John Kearney <john.kearney@ns.=
sympatico.ca> wrote:=20

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

Hi All,

The last report for this year=E2=80=99s autumn nocturnal migration in Yarmo=
uth County is posted on my webpage at the following links.

=C2=A0

Carleton: http://johnfkearney.com/Carleton_Yarmouth_County_2017.html

=C2=A0

Cape Forchu: http://johnfkearney.com/Cape_Forchu_Yarmouth_County_2017.html

=C2=A0

Although migration volume was low this week, the report provides some data =
on the historic fallout of 26-30 October from a nocturnal perspective.

=C2=A0

John
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            <div>Hello John and all:</div><div><br></div><div>With the wind=
s we have, it's amazing the equipment holds up as it does! I see why it has=
 to come down. Thanks for relating those details. Migration is one of the w=
onders of the world! I don't think we can learn too much about it.<br><br>T=
hese current vagrant birds might not even leave via the normal migration ro=
utes, they might not know the routes here. Some of Phil Taylor's (and other=
s) work is giving hints about the learning of routes that at least some spe=
cies go through, such as the Blackpoll warbler hatch year birds zig-zagging=
 the province before setting out, and then taking a different route than th=
e adults; an apparently safer route. I also wonder how much is taught by th=
e parents, or just being in a migrating flock.</div><div><br></div><div>The=
 frequency and intensity and sheer SIZE of some of the storm systems we are=
 experiencing with climate changes does have a huge impact on migration. Me=
ga-storms are one of the predictions of climate change models; we've alread=
y seen many changes in a relatively short period of time. Even without clim=
ate change, the hurricane season happens right at the same time all those b=
irds are travelling. For some, it can be a boost on their way, but I think =
for many it's a disaster, especially with bird numbers way down for many sp=
ecies.<br><br>Yes, thankfully we have ebird and the Facebook pages to help =
fill in some blanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Looking forward to Spring and=
 the reports happening again as the birds return!</div><div><br></div><div>=
all the best,&nbsp;<br><br>Carmel</div><div><br></div>
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ss=3D"yiv8274451689MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Hi Carmel and all,</span></p=
><p class=3D"yiv8274451689MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Thank you for your in=
terest and support for my nocturnal migration studies. I very much apprecia=
te feedback and discussion on this work.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv827445168=
9MsoNormal"><span style=3D""> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv8274451689Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"">It has been a rough autumn for long-distance migra=
nts. Hurricanes Harvey, Irma, and Maria had huge impacts on stop-over and w=
intering habitats in Texas, Louisiana, Florida, and the Caribbean. And now =
we had this late October storm that drove birds far north of their destinat=
ions in South America and the Caribbean. These storm-related impacts of cli=
mate change are just beginning to be researched, and there are not many stu=
dies about the strategies and survival rates of storm-swept birds. However,=
 the few studies we have indicate that birds face an up-hill struggle in ge=
tting themselves back on track.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv8274451689MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D""> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv8274451689MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"">Since the vagrants from our recent fallout have dispersed s=
ince their initial arrival, it likely that the continued operation of my mo=
nitoring stations would have yielded little new information on these birds.=
 The monitoring stations sample relatively small areas of the sky overhead =
and the number of records greatly diminishes as the density of migration de=
creases. Nonetheless, I agree with you that it would be interesting to moni=
tor into November. My main concern at this point is the protection of my mo=
nitoring equipment. With the onset of colder temperatures and higher winds =
in October, I generally start to dismantle my remote monitoring stations ju=
st after 15 October. Near freezing temperatures shorten battery run-times a=
nd can damage recording equipment. With the loss of foliage, the microphone=
s are more vulnerable to driving rain and the station is more detectable to=
 animals that like to chew or otherwise investigate new things in their env=
ironment. It is my hope that there will be more weather-resistant and more =
easily replaceable equipment in the future.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv827445=
1689MsoNormal"><span style=3D""> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv8274451689=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">As you indicate, I believe that eBird will be t=
he best source for documenting the movements of vagrants in the wake of thi=
s fallout. The Nova Scotia Facebook page has also become an important sourc=
e of information from a much broader spectrum of bird enthusiasts.</span></=
p><p class=3D"yiv8274451689MsoNormal"><span style=3D""> &nbsp;</span></p><p=
 class=3D"yiv8274451689MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Thanks again!</span></p>=
<p class=3D"yiv8274451689MsoNormal"><span style=3D""> John</span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"yiv8274451689MsoNormal"><span style=3D""> &nbsp;</span></p><div class=
=3D"yiv8274451689yqt2857987717" id=3D"yiv8274451689yqt36826"><div><div styl=
e=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"=
><p class=3D"yiv8274451689MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></=
b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owne=
r@chebucto.ns.ca] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carmel Smith<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sen=
t:</b> November-05-17 14:18<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.=
ns.ca<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] Nocturnal Migration =
for the 4th Week of October</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"yiv8274451689=
MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"yiv8274451689MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Hi John,</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv827=
4451689MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"yiv8274451689MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"=
>It's unfortunate that the winds forecast necessitated the take-down of the=
 monitoring equipment! It would be amazing to find out more about how the f=
allout birds leave. Questions such as: When they leave, answering questions=
 of how long they hang on in the province after landing; What routes they t=
ake to leave; How they leave--whether there is a mass outflow or do they ju=
st straggle along as they leave?&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"=
>I also wonder how the familiarity of the territory affects how they leave?=
 In other words, we have no reason to believe--as far as I can tell--that t=
he birds which have ended up here have ever been to this area. Some of them=
 perhaps, but the fact they end up here in this situation wouldn't have any=
 bearing on where these individuals have their breeding grounds. Does famil=
iarity with the territory influence how swiftly they can recover and find t=
heir way back on a track to their normal wintering grounds? The Magnolias i=
n your last report, are they back on track quickly because they are individ=
uals who were breeding here? Were they swept in from a nearer area than all=
 the catbirds, tanagers, grosbeaks, etc.?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"no=
ne">All questions I ponder... and have to say, your last reports gave a gli=
mpse...but how much more we could learn if the stations were still up and w=
e could see more of their migration, since they are still here. The reports=
 are still coming in, and as people move away from the hotspots and check o=
ther areas, they are discovering more birds in pockets where they find suit=
able cover and food. These areas are not always right at the coast, though =
often within several km of the ocean. I hope the data being accumulated wil=
l be examined for these facts as well (where the birds found a spot to reco=
ver and how they move out from there--ebird being a major data source for t=
his). Though the lack of birders--except for those who frequent the hotspot=
s and check out areas already reported to harbour vagrants--will mean many =
are missed. At least until they end up in one of the funnels in the Southwe=
st; hopefully the diligence of birders in the exit areas will give a good s=
napshot of the departure patterns.&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;<br clear=
=3D"none">Which brings me back to my original thought--how awesome it would=
 be to be able to have nocturnal migration records of their movements!&nbsp=
;<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">John, are there any stations still i=
n operation?</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8274451689MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv82=
74451689MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">thanks again for your =
dedicated work!<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Carmel Smith</span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8274451689MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12=
.0pt;">Midville Branch, L'burg County, NS</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
yiv8274451689MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p=
></div><div id=3D"yiv8274451689yahoo_quoted_0783012682"><div><div><p class=
=3D"yiv8274451689MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">On Sunday, No=
vember 5, 2017, 1:32:52 PM AST, John Kearney &lt;</span><a rel=3D"nofollow"=
 shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:john.kearney@ns.sympatico.ca" target=3D"_=
blank" href=3D"mailto:john.kearney@ns.sympatico.ca"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;">john.kearney@ns.sympatico.ca</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;">&gt; wrote: </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8274451689MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"yiv8274451689MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span=
></p></div><div><div id=3D"yiv8274451689"><div><div><p class=3D"yiv82744516=
89msonormal"><span style=3D"color:#26282A;">Hi All,</span><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;"></span></p><p class=3D"yiv8274451689msonormal"><span style=
=3D"color:#26282A;">The last report for this year=E2=80=99s autumn nocturna=
l migration in Yarmouth County is posted on my webpage at the following lin=
ks.</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p><p class=3D"yiv82744=
51689msonormal"><span style=3D"color:#26282A;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p><p class=3D"yiv8274451689msonormal"><span lan=
g=3D"ES-MX" style=3D"color:#26282A;">Carleton: </span><a rel=3D"nofollow" s=
hape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://johnfkearney.com/Carleton_Ya=
rmouth_County_2017.html"><span lang=3D"ES-MX">http://johnfkearney.com/Carle=
ton_Yarmouth_County_2017.html</span></a><span lang=3D"ES-MX" style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt;"></span></p><p class=3D"yiv8274451689msonormal"><span lang=3D"=
ES-MX" style=3D"color:#26282A;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"ES-MX" style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p><p class=3D"yiv8274451689msonormal"><span sty=
le=3D"color:#26282A;">Cape Forchu: </span><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect=
" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://johnfkearney.com/Cape_Forchu_Yarmouth_Co=
unty_2017.html">http://johnfkearney.com/Cape_Forchu_Yarmouth_County_2017.ht=
ml</a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p><p class=3D"yiv827445168=
9msonormal"><span style=3D"color:#26282A;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;"></span></p><p class=3D"yiv8274451689msonormal"><span style=
=3D"color:#26282A;">Although migration volume was low this week, the report=
 provides some data on the historic fallout of 26-30 October from a nocturn=
al perspective.</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p><p class=
=3D"yiv8274451689msonormal"><span style=3D"color:#26282A;">&nbsp;</span><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p><p class=3D"yiv8274451689msonorma=
l"><span style=3D"color:#26282A;">John</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;"></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>=
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