Re[4]: [NatureNS] Multiflora Rose

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Hi Randy & All,
     Why do birds have the only meaningful vote ? They vote with their=20
beaks. They come, they eat, they sow. Our native roses do not spread=20
rapidly. I wonder why.
     The only constant in vegetative cover is change. For some 50 years I=
=20
have recorded plants which "invaded" our postage stamp lot. Most stick=20
around for a time and then are displaced by something else.
     On a numerical scale the potential damage inflicted by MR is -10^5;=20
way less than zero. Damage inflicted by human activity more than 10^10.=20
We all should aspire to a minimum footprint.
     Thanks for the soapbox Randy but I must go.
Yt, DW, Kentville



------ Original Message ------
From: "Randy Lauff" <randy.lauff@gmail.com>
To: "NatureNS" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: 12/6/2017 8:49:35 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Multiflora Rose

>Why do birds have the only meaningful vote? That is simply ridiculous,=20
>David. Do our own native plants not have such a vote? I suspect that=20
>they would vote them "off the island", and occupy the space themselves.
>
>I have actually thought about the SI Ponies. If SI is designated an=20
>historic site (is it?), then the ponies are part of the culture. There=20
>is no fear of them spreading anywhere. MR - is invasive.
>
>We need to look at the big picture...not just that MR is "good for the=20
>birds" (when in fact it is only good for some birds). Our native roses=20
>are good for the birds in this context, too.
>
>Randy
>
>_________________________________
>RF Lauff
>Way in the boonies of
>Antigonish County, NS.
>
>On 5 December 2017 at 18:40, David <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:
>>Hi Randy & All,
>>     In such matters the birds have the only meaningful vote and they=20
>>have made their approval of MR very clear. In late winter, on calm=20
>>sunny days, the nearby MR patch looks like Grand Central Station; much=20
>>coming and going and the lawn becomes sprinkled with closely spaced=20
>>red splotches.
>>
>>     I suspect you are just pulling our leg Randy so in that vein, I=20
>>suggest you should get that program to eradicate the Sable Island=20
>>ponies in motion and when they are history, move on to eradicating MR;=20
>>my patches dead last.
>>YT, DW, Kentville
>>
>>------ Original Message ------
>>From: "Randy Lauff" <randy.lauff@gmail.com>
>>To: "NatureNS" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
>>Sent: 12/5/2017 6:14:14 PM
>>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Multiflora Rose
>>
>>>Why not, Paul?
>>>Randy
>>>
>>>On Dec 4, 2017 4:05 PM, "rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca"=20
>>><rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>I don't think so Randy!
>>>>Enjoy the fall
>>>>Paul
>>>>
>>>>>On December 4, 2017 at 10:24 AM Randy Lauff <randy.lauff@gmail.com>=20
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>It would be great if this introduced plant would be eradicated. Let=20
>>>>>native plants feed the birds.
>>>>>
>>>>>Randy
>>>>>
>>>>>_________________________________
>>>>>RF Lauff
>>>>>Way in the boonies of
>>>>>Antigonish County, NS.
>>>>>
>>>>>On 3 December 2017 at 09:01, David <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Hi Nancy & All,
>>>>>>     It is especially appreciated in late winter to judge from bird=
=20
>>>>>>activity in the nearby bushes and red splotches in the snow. It=20
>>>>>>would be great if the thornless strain could become predominant.
>>>>>>YT, DW, Kentville
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>------ Original Message ------
>>>>>>From: "nancy dowd" < nancypdowd@gmail.com>
>>>>>>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>>>>>>Sent: 12/3/2017 6:50:39 AM
>>>>>>Subject: [NatureNS] Multiflora Rose
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Overlooking its faults, Multiflora Rose is a seriously=20
>>>>>>>bird-friendly shrub judging by the number of pictures on the NSBS=20
>>>>>>>Facebook page lately showing regular and unusual birds in its=20
>>>>>>>branches and feeding on the rosehips. One has to wonder if it=E2=80=
=99s=20
>>>>>>>spread has contributed to the number of migrants lingering later=20
>>>>>>>into the Fall and Winter? It certainly seems to help them survive=20
>>>>>>>at least.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nancy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>
>
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