1.1 Kosovo-Problems of War

Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:29:27 -0700
From: Michael Posluns <mposluns@accglobal.net>
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Friends,

I am passing on the following statement from Senator Taylor, in
the Senate of Canada, because he appears to combine a geological
understanding of the terrain of Kosovo with a political
sensibility as to the actual capability of air power in advancing
policy.

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Debates of the Senate,
SENATORS' STATEMENTS
1. Yugoslavia
1.1 Kosovo-Problems of War
Hon. Nicholas W. Taylor: Honourable senators, to preface this
statement, I wish to state that I have worked in the area of the
Balkan peninsula, from Vienna to Istanbul and from the Black Sea
to the Aegean and the Adriatic, since 1960. I do not tell you
that to profess in any way to being an expert on Yugoslavia,
except to emphasize that anyone who tells you that they are an
expert on Yugoslavia is not an expert on Yugoslavia. It is
probably one of the areas in the world whose politics are the
most complicated and difficult to understand.
I introduced this topic on March 25. I spoke in this chamber
immediately after Senator Kinsella, who had proposed a very good
solution to the problem. Unfortunately, neither NATO nor the U.S.
presidency was listening to either one of us. I spoke about the
foolishness of the bombing project at that time.
After listening to the debate in the last couple of days, I was
interested in knowing how many people believe as God's word what
Ted Turner's CNN television stations churns out. In other words,
if he says there is a massacre on one side, that is the only one
that has occurred. Apparently, no one even thinks for a minute
that war is a nasty business and atrocities are committed on both
sides. Mr. Turner, the same fellow who gave former president Bush
70 per cent popularity and then took it back to 30 per cent in
one year, is now doing the same thing with this war.
The second item that I thought was interesting in listening to
the House of Commons debate is that no one is saying what we will
do when we win. Supposing Milosevic beats his head and says,
"Uncle," what will we do? That will probably mean that the KLA
will move in there and start killing the Serbs. No matter which
way you look at it, we are using violence and we will be stuck
with years and years of policing. There must be another way, and
I think there are other ways.
I am afraid that NATO members are guilty of ignoring history - at
least the lessons that it teaches us - in their desire to punish
the Serbian people for being foolish enough to allow a dictator
to take over their government and to re-ignite the racist and
religious wars that have swept the Balkans for the last hundred
years. The present program of bombing everything and anything -
including homes and workplaces, which have nothing to do with the
war movement - and calling it "collateral damage" is wrong on
three fronts: politically, militarily and morally.
It is wrong politically, since there is no evidence,
historically, that bombing or attacking a country weakens the
resolve of, or the support for, their leadership. Whether we are
talking about support for Churchill when Hitler attacked London,
or support for Saddam Hussein when we bombed Iraq, the result has
always been the same, namely, to reinforce the leadership.
It is also wrong militarily. As a geologist, I have done a
significant amount of work in that area, and if you think that it
is rough country and you want to see what it looks like, drive
from Revelstoke to Golden. There are nothing but mountains and
more mountains. I was originally hired by Mr. Tito to establish
their geological survey. I remember him bragging that with 100
men - and later, with 500 men - he had been able to keep three
German Panzer divisions tied up for three years. This is the type
of country in which our troops will be operating. The idea that
we will get out of there without deploying ground forces does not
hold water.
Lastly, I think it is morally wrong. You cannot use violence to
teach others not to use violence to solve their problems. The end
never justifies the means.
Hon. Senators: Hear, hear!

-- 
Michael W. Posluns,
The StillWaters Group,
First Nations Relations & Public Policy.

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