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Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 18:07:55 -0500
From: Michael Posluns <mposluns@accglobal.net>
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> Subject: NEWS-FEDS TO BUG CONVERSATIONS WITH LAWYERS
> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:33:58 EST
> From: Aimfl@aol.com
> To: SGMAIMFL@aol.com
>
> So much for lawyer-client privelege and Miranda is now legally
> pointless
>
> Published Friday, November 9, 2001
> U.S. can eavesdrop on lawyers, jailed clients
>
> BY GEORGE LARDNER JR.
> Washington Post Service WASHINGTON -- The Justice Department has
> decided to listen in on the conversations of lawyers with clients in
> federal custody, including people who have been detained but not
> charged with any crime, whenever that is deemed necessary to prevent
> violence or terrorism.
>
> Attorney General John Ashcroft approved the eavesdropping rule on an
> emergency basis last week, without the usual waiting period for public
> comment. It went into effect immediately, permitting the government to
> monitor conversations and intercept mail between people in custody and
> their attorneys for up to a year at a time.
>
> The move, which the Justice Department said was necessary ``in view of
> the immediacy of the dangers to the public,'' stunned defense lawyers
> and civil libertarians. They assailed it as an unconstitutional attack
> on the right to counsel and, in the words of American Civil Liberties
> Union official Laura Murphy, ``a terrifying precedent.''The monitoring
> of attorney-client conversations is the latest in a series of
> extraordinary law enforcement measures the government has taken in
> response to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington.
>
> Until now, communications between inmates and their attorneys have
> been exempt from the usual monitoring of social phone calls and visits
> at the 100 federal prisons around the country.
>
> NO COURT ORDER
> According to a summary published in the Federal Register on Oct. 31,
> the monitoring will be conducted without a court order whenever the
> attorney general certifies ``that reasonable suspicion exists to
> believe that an inmate may use communications with attorneys or their
> agents to facilitate acts of terrorism.''The definition of ``inmate''
> previously covered only people in custody of the federal Bureau of
> Prisons, but it was changed to cover anyone ``held as witnesses,
> detainees or otherwise'' by INS agents, U.S. marshals or other federal
> authorities. Since Sept. 11, the government has detained nearly 1,200
> people, many on immigration violations. The Bush administration has
> declined to say how many have been released.
>
> CHALLENGES?
> Linda Osberg-Braun, a South Florida immigration attorney who was a
> lead lawyer in the Elían González case, said: ``There obviously are
> constitutional challenges to be made against this new rule. Perhaps it
> would survive constitutional scrutiny if there were a wall between
> using it for national security purposes and criminal prosecutions.``
>
> Attorneys are going to be even more intimidated than they already are
> in representing Middle Eastern nationals.''Explaining the new rule,
> the Justice Department said authorities ``may have substantial reason
> to believe that certain inmates who have been involved in terrorist or
> potentially violent activities will pass messages through their
> attorneys (or the attorney's legal assistant or an interpreter) to
> individuals on the outside for the purpose of continuing terrorist
> activities.''
>
> The president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers,
> Irwin Schwartz of Seattle, denounced the eavesdropping as ``an
> abomination'' and said it would be challenged in court at the first
> opportunity.``The Code of Professional Responsibility is quite clear:
> a lawyer must maintain confidentiality,'' Schwartz said. ``If we can't
> speak with a client confidentially, we may not speak with him at all.
> And if we can't do that, the client is stripped of his Sixth Amendment
> right to have a lawyer.''
>
> SAFEGUARDS The Justice Department said it will set up ``procedural
> safeguards'' to protect the right to counsel. Inmates and their
> attorneys will be notified ``of the government's listening
> activities,'' and the monitoring will be done by a special ``taint
> team'' that will not disclose what it hears to federal prosecutors or
> investigators without approval by a federal judge, officials
> said.Records of clearly privileged information, such as a discussion
> about a client's defense, will not be retained by the monitors, the
> department said. Apart from disclosures necessary to thwart imminent
> violence or terrorism, any disclosures to investigators or prosecutors
> must be approved by a federal judge, it added.The critics were not
> mollified. ``Who's going to be on the taint team?'' asked Kate Martin,
> director of the Center for National Security Studies, a nonprofit
> group in Washington. ``The government says it's building a mosaic,
> processing thousands of bits and pieces of information that may seem
> innocuous at first glance.``How is the `taint team' going to know if
> something a person says to a lawyer is part of the mosaic or not
> without sharing it with others? This seems to be a useless safeguard.
> What if they think what they overhear is in code?'
>
> 'Herald staff writer Jay Weaver contributed to this report.
>
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