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I guess what you are saying doesn't comfort me. It means that they will ne=
ed to cut vastly more acreage to get the good quality that they'll need for=
the increased lumber demand. You're right that on the surface having the f=
eds building with wood may appear like a small thing - but Public Works spe=
nds several hundred million dollars a year so that's not peanuts. Renovati=
ons needed for Parliament=92s West Block alone are estimated at $800 millio=
n. Again not small potatoes. Also the intent is to use this act as a market=
ing tool to increase sales of canadian wood internationally. Strangely=2C t=
he Bloc Quebecois=2C who introduced the bill=2C have the addled notion that=
building with wood will help reduce green-house gases. How on earth does =
it do that? It takes upwards of 50 years to regrow a good lumber tree up h=
ere so cutting them down hurts=3B especially when you add in accelerated so=
il oxidation caused by the clear cutting you'll need to do to get enough hi=
gh quality timber to feed this new market. Anyway I have little sympathy fo=
r the industry. Apparently the government has spent about $1.5 billion in t=
he past several years propping it up. It would be a different thing perhaps=
if the bill stated that the wood used must be harvested sustainably. I wo=
rry about old growth and near old growth stands that will be targeted if th=
is is passed. =20
=20
From: dwebster@glinx.com
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] is anyone else concerned about the "wood first" act=
before parliament - seems like biomass issues redoubled if these moves acr=
oss canada
Date: Wed=2C 3 Nov 2010 21:37:23 -0300
Hi Mary & All=2C Nov 3=2C 2010
Briefly=2C forestry is a primary industry and primary industries genera=
te the wealth that pay all bills. Sort of like photosynthesis in the tradit=
ional Biological economy. So it is in everyone's interest to have a prosper=
ous forestry industry.=20
=20
Currently=2C for a host of reasons that are beyond the scope of Naturen=
s=2C it is far from prosperous. An economic study of world-wide pulp produc=
tion (about 2005 I think and expressed as cost per unit round wood landed a=
t the mill) showed Atlantic Canada to have higher costs than any other pulp=
producing area.=20
=20
To access good quality timber it is usually necessary/desirable to cut =
the low grade wood as well and it helps generate profit if there is a marke=
t=2C such as pulp for this wood.
=20
As you may have noticed=2C pulp mills have been closing or threatening =
to close unless they get power breaks etc. The implosion of Abitibi Paper [=
where 100 shares had a market value of about $1000 in 2003 and=2C after giv=
ing effect to the Abitibi-Bowater amalgamation where one Ab share became 0.=
06261 AB share in 2007=2C the resultant 6.261 shares now sell=2C at $0.035/=
share for=2C ~$0.22=3B a rather dramatic loss of 99.978% over 7 years] is =
one measure of the perfect storm that has hit the pulp industry.=20
=20
In addition the financial meltdown of 2008 has decreased the demand & p=
rice for lumber so the forest industry has had some very tough years on the=
heels of tough years and I expect many have had to sell their equipment fo=
r a song & move on.
=20
Yt=2C Dave Webster=2C Kentville
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Mary Macaulay=20
To: Nature Nova Scotia=20
Sent: Wednesday=2C November 03=2C 2010 4:16 PM
Subject: [NatureNS] is anyone else concerned about the "wood first" act bef=
ore parliament - seems like biomass issues redoubled if these moves across =
canada
the "wood first" act - Bill C-429 has already gone through it's first readi=
ng and through committee and looks like it may become law very soon:=20
=20
It mandates government to prefer wood for any and all projects:
=20
"amend the Department of Public Works and Government Services Act (use of w=
ood) by adding the following after subsection (1):
(1.1) Despite subsection (1)=2C before soliciting bids for the construction=
=2C maintenance or repair of public works=2C federal immovables and federa=
l real property=2C the Minister shall give preference to the concept that p=
romotes the use of wood=2C while taking into account the cost and greenhous=
e gas emissions."
=20
This started in BC where it is now law and is beginning to be adopted and/o=
r looked at by other jurisdictions.
=20
Can this be good - interested in other people's opinions. I just feel our =
forests are being threatened on every level.
=20
=20
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I guess what you are saying doesn't comfort me. =3B It means that they =
will need to =3Bcut vastly more =3Bacreage =3Bto get the good q=
uality that they'll need for the increased lumber demand. =3BYou're rig=
ht that on the surface =3Bhaving the feds building with wood may appear=
like a small thing - but Public Works =3Bspends several hundred =
=3Bmillion dollars a year =3Bso that's not peanuts. =3B Renovations=
needed for Parliament=92s West Block alone are estimated at $800 million. =
Again not small potatoes. Also the intent is to use this act =3Bas a ma=
rketing tool to increase sales of canadian wood internationally. =3BStr=
angely=2C the Bloc Quebecois=2C who introduced the bill=2C have the addled =
notion that building with wood will help reduce green-house gases. =3B =
How on earth does it do that? =3B It takes upwards of 50 years to regro=
w a good lumber tree up here so cutting them down hurts=3B especially when =
you add in accelerated soil oxidation caused by the clear cutting you'll ne=
ed to do to get enough high quality timber to feed this new market. Anyway =
I have little sympathy for the industry. Apparently the government has spen=
t about =3B$1.5 billion in the past several years propping it up. =
=3BIt would be a different thing perhaps if the bill stated that the wood u=
sed must be harvested sustainably. =3B I worry about =3Bold growth =
and near old growth stands that will be targeted if this is passed. =3B=
 =3B<BR> =3B<BR>
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From: dwebster@glinx.com<BR>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR>Subject: Re: [Na=
tureNS] is anyone else concerned about the "wood first" act before parliame=
nt - seems like biomass issues redoubled if these moves across canada<BR>Da=
te: Wed=2C 3 Nov 2010 21:37:23 -0300<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Mary &=3B All=2C =3B =3B =3B &nbs=
p=3B =3B =3B  =3B =3B =3B  =3B =3B =3B Nov =
3=2C 2010</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial> =3B =3B =3B Briefly=2C forestry is a p=
rimary industry and primary industries generate the wealth that pay all bil=
ls. Sort of like photosynthesis in the traditional Biological economy. So i=
t is in everyone's interest to have a prosperous forestry industry. </FONT>=
</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> =3B</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial> =3B =3B =3B Currently=2C for a host of=
 =3Breasons that =3Bare beyond the scope of Naturens=2C =3Bit i=
s far from prosperous. An economic study of world-wide pulp production (abo=
ut 2005 I think and expressed as cost per unit round wood landed at the mil=
l) showed Atlantic Canada to have higher costs than any other pulp producin=
g area. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> =3B</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial> =3B =3B =3B To access good quality tim=
ber it is usually necessary/desirable to cut the low grade wood as well and=
it helps generate profit if there is a market=2C such as pulp for this&nbs=
p=3B wood.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> =3B</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial> =3B =3B =3B As you may have noticed=2C=
pulp mills have been closing or threatening to close unless they get power=
breaks etc. The implosion of Abitibi Paper [where 100 shares had a market =
value of about $1000 in 2003 and=2C after giving effect to the Abitibi-Bowa=
ter amalgamation where one Ab share became 0.06261 AB share in 2007=2C the =
resultant 6.261 shares =3Bnow sell=2C =3Bat $0.035/share for=2C &nb=
sp=3B~$0.22=3B a rather dramatic loss of 99.978% over 7 years] is one measu=
re of the perfect storm that has hit the pulp industry. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> =3B</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial> =3B =3B =3B In addition the financial =
meltdown of 2008 has decreased the demand &=3B price for lumber so the f=
orest industry has had some very tough years on the heels of tough years&nb=
sp=3Band I expect many have had to sell their equipment for a song &=3B =
move on.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> =3B</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial> =3B =3B =3B Yt=2C Dave Webster=2C Kent=
ville</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial=3B BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4=3B font-color: black"=
><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dmarymacaulay@hotmail.com href=3D"mailto:marymacaul=
ay@hotmail.com">Mary Macaulay</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.=
ca href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">Nature Nova Scotia</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday=2C November 03=2C 20=
10 4:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] is anyone else c=
oncerned about the "wood first" act before parliament - seems like biomass =
issues redoubled if these moves across canada</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>the "wood first" act - Bill C-429 has already gone through i=
t's first reading and through committee and looks like it may become law ve=
ry soon: <BR> =3B<BR>It mandates government to prefer wood for any and =
all projects:<BR> =3B<BR>"amend the Department of Public Works and Gove=
rnment Services Act (use of wood) by adding the following after subsection =
(1):<BR>(1.1) Despite subsection (1)=2C before soliciting bids for the cons=
truction =2C maintenance or repair of public works=2C federal immovables an=
d federal real property=2C the Minister shall give preference to the concep=
t that promotes the use of wood=2C while taking into account the cost and g=
reenhouse gas emissions."<BR> =3B<BR>This started in BC where it is now=
law and is beginning to be adopted and/or looked at by other jurisdictions=
.<BR> =3B<BR>Can this be good - interested in other people's opinions.&=
nbsp=3B I just feel our forests are being threatened on every level.<BR>&nb=
sp=3B<BR> =3B<BR>
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