[NatureNS] Freshwater Shortages and Bay of Fundy Tides

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Quoting David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>:

> Hi Patricia & All,                    July 13, 2012
>    I don't know Greg Gerrits but I do know Elmridge Farm produce;  
> top quality and this implies unusually good management. So I would  
> be inclined to accept his observation of well replenishment rates as  
> a function of something to do with tides but it can not caused  
> directly by height of saltwater in the 'nearby' shore.
>
>    Flow of any liquid in a porous medium is directly proportional to  
> hydraulic gradient (head z/lateral displacement y) and inversely  
> proportional to resistance. A head difference of 10m over lateral  
> displacement of 10 km (hydraulic gradient = 0.001) would induce  
> essentially zero flow  Or approaching this from the other direction,  
> when water is pumped exhaustively from a well the water table  
> (drawing on memory) is seldom lowered beyond a radius of 50 metres.

Dave, Patricia:
I don't know if you have the physics of the above idea correct, Dave,  
but if you have, here is a possible suggestion/way out of your  
pessimistic assessment.
Suppose that the water table out there is in part a continuous sheet  
or lake of (almost) incompressible water that extends all the way from  
the farm out to within, say, 1 meter of the Bay of Fundy.  Your  
hydraulic gradient now rises to 10 instead of your 0.001, and the  
resulting forced flow, now feasible, would impress some seawater into  
the supposed continuous aquifer under pressure. The resulting pressure  
change would be felt very quickly even 10 km inland, explaining the  
increase in pressure in the well (as in water coming out of a long,  
full hose immediately after the tap (pressure source) is turned on --  
no delay).  This amounts to saying that there is zero resistance to  
flow over 10 km, which is not possible physically because of  
frictional wall effects (Poiseuille's law for tubes -- lower flow near  
the edges), but you can speculate that this might be a relatively  
small effect if the depth of water table is significantly large.  A  
bit of the sea water would mix in at the edges but most would be  
removed again at the next low tide.
I don't know if this is a physically reasonable model of what's down  
there, but if it is, it might make the farmer's observation feasible.   
Obviously it goes against your belief that the water table is  
extremely local.  Do geophysicists conceptualize the water table  
around there as in part a continuous, shallow underground lake?  
Someone must have investigated this if you knew where to look or whom  
to ask.
Steve (Halifax)


>    I would suspect that a tidal effect leads to a local artificial  
> hydraulic gradient. In effect, water running uphill to the well (and  
> well vicinity) during this peak inflow period.
>
>    I ran into NatureNS by accident some years ago while trying to  
> find some understandable explanation of tidal effects on the  
> internet. The nearest I have come to an explanation was some  
> oracular comment to the effect that it is explained by math that  
> almost no one understands. But meanwhile the tides come in and go  
> even though I don't understand how it works.
>
> YT, Dave Webster, Kentville
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "P.L. Chalmers"  
> <plchalmers@ns.sympatico.ca>
> To: "NatureNS" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 2:28 PM
> Subject: [NatureNS] Freshwater Shortages and Bay of Fundy Tides
>
>
>> For most of my life, my family home in Bedford was dependant on a  
>> drilled artesian well, as there was no municipal water supply in  
>> our neighbourhood.  This is no longer the case, but I am still  
>> acutely aware of how valuable water is, and curious about  
>> hydrology.  I was in the Annapolis Valley last week and saw how  
>> very dry the fields and orchards were there.  So last Saturday, at  
>> the Halifax Seaport Farmers' Market,  I was asking some of the  
>> farmers how they were getting on in the present drought.
>>
>> I had an interesting chat with Greg Gerrits of Elmridge Farm.   
>> Since there was so little snow last winter, and since it was such a  
>> dry spring, his normal water supply is down at least 40% from  
>> normal levels.  He doesn't have enough water to irrigate more than  
>> a few acres at a time.  However, he went on to explain the  
>> influence of the Bay of Fundy tides on his water supply. He said  
>> that the weight of incoming water in the Bay was sufficient to  
>> exert pressure on water deep below the ground, even where he farms  
>> (near Sheffield Mills, I think).  The flow of fresh water into his  
>> well improves significantly when the Bay is full of salt water.  So  
>> he has learned to schedule his irrigation so that it begins three  
>> hours before high tide, and stops three hours after high tide.
>>
>> There are so many kinds of knowledge that a successful farmer needs  
>> to have, but it hadn't occurred to me that a knowledge of the tides  
>> was one of them.  I may not be representing this very well, but I  
>> found it intriguing; perhaps someone could say more?
>>
>> Patricia L. Chalmers
>> Halifax

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