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Hi Jim & All,                            Aug 29, 2012
    Is it not also possible that a surfeit of squid could be partly a =
consequence of fewer large fish to 'bite em' ? I suspect that O'Dor made =
this point and it somehow got lost; otherwise why discuss the changes in =
size distribution of fish ?

    My now ancient copy of Collins (1959) gives the range of Loligo =
pealei as Nova Scotia to Florida (now as far north as Newfoundland) and =
Illex illecebrosus as Greenland to Gulf of Mexico.=20

    So there has been a potential for opportunity to eat squid here; =
Illex if not Loligo until recently. Is Illex inferior as human food to =
Loligo or do neither keep/freeze well ?  Or is availability too erratic =
for a market to be established ?

Yt, Dw, Kentville

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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: James W. Wolford=20
  To: NatureNS ; Janet Eaton ; Glenys Gibson ; Sherman Bleakney ; =
Sherman Boates ; Mark F Elderkin ; Roy Bishop ; Jim Wolford ; Fred Scott =
; Andrew Hebda ; Donald McAlpine=20
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 5:50 PM
  Subject: [NatureNS] Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:39:15 -0300


  THANKS to Janet Eaton for sending me this very timely article on =
longfin squids, Loligo pealei, by Dalhousie Univ.'s Ron O'Dor, dated =
Aug. 28, 2012.  Note in the accompanying photo a squid jig lying next to =
a longfin squid, clearly showing the telltale long fins on both sides of =
the mantle (vs. the much shorter fins of the shortfin squid, Illex.  Jim =
in Wolfville.


  Squid invade waters off Halifax=97Dal scientist blames global warming

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  1 day ago ... Warmer waters around Halifax have enticed millions of =
squid to visit, and Dalhousie researcher Ron O'Dor suggests that if we =
don't want them ...
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Jim &amp; All,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Aug 29, 2012</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Is it not&nbsp;also =
possible&nbsp;that a=20
surfeit of squid&nbsp;could be&nbsp;partly a consequence of fewer large =
fish to=20
'bite em' ? I suspect that O'Dor made this point and it somehow got =
lost;=20
otherwise why discuss the changes in&nbsp;size distribution of fish=20
?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; My now ancient copy of Collins =
(1959) gives=20
the range of Loligo pealei as Nova Scotia to Florida (now as far north =
as=20
Newfoundland) and Illex illecebrosus as Greenland to Gulf of Mexico.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So there has been&nbsp;a =
potential=20
for&nbsp;opportunity to eat squid here; Illex if not Loligo until=20
recently.&nbsp;Is Illex inferior as human food to Loligo or do neither=20
keep/freeze well ?&nbsp;&nbsp;Or is availability too erratic for a =
market to be=20
established ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Yt, Dw, Kentville</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Djimwolford@eastlink.ca =
href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">James W.=20
  Wolford</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
  href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">NatureNS</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Djmeaton@ns.sympatico.ca =
href=3D"mailto:jmeaton@ns.sympatico.ca">Janet=20
  Eaton</A> ; <A title=3Dglenys.gibson@acadiau.ca=20
  href=3D"mailto:glenys.gibson@acadiau.ca">Glenys Gibson</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dseaslug@glinx.com href=3D"mailto:seaslug@glinx.com">Sherman =
Bleakney</A> ;=20
  <A title=3Dboatesjs@gov.ns.ca =
href=3D"mailto:boatesjs@gov.ns.ca">Sherman=20
  Boates</A> ; <A title=3Delderkmf@gov.ns.ca =
href=3D"mailto:elderkmf@gov.ns.ca">Mark=20
  F Elderkin</A> ; <A title=3Drlb@eastlink.ca =
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  Bishop</A> ; <A title=3Djimwolford@eastlink.ca=20
  href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">Jim Wolford</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dfwscott@eastlink.ca href=3D"mailto:fwscott@eastlink.ca">Fred =
Scott</A> ;=20
  <A title=3DHEBDAAJ@gov.ns.ca href=3D"mailto:HEBDAAJ@gov.ns.ca">Andrew =
Hebda</A> ;=20
  <A title=3DDonald.McAlpine@nbm-mnb.ca=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 29, =
2012 5:50=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] Date: Wed, =
29 Aug=20
  2012 17:39:15 -0300</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>THANKS to Janet Eaton for sending me this very timely =
article=20
  on longfin squids, Loligo pealei, by Dalhousie Univ.'s Ron O'Dor, =
dated Aug.=20
  28, 2012. &nbsp;Note in the accompanying photo a squid jig lying next =
to a=20
  longfin squid, clearly showing the telltale long fins on both sides of =
the=20
  mantle (vs. the much shorter fins of the shortfin squid, Illex. =
&nbsp;Jim in=20
  Wolfville.
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
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  ago <B>...</B> <B>Warmer waters</B> around <B>Halifax</B> have enticed =

  millions of <B>squid</B> to visit, and <B>Dalhousie</B> researcher Ron =
O'Dor=20
  suggests that if we don't want them =
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