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That would make sense Fritz. We did not have barn swallows until a year or =
two after we started raising alpacas. Despite the barn being of 100 year ol=
d construction.=0A=0ARob=0A=0A=0A=A0=0ATo free oneself of knowledge is to d=
ie, and thus one lives. - Krishnamurti=0A=0A=0A____________________________=
____=0A From: Fritz McEvoy <fritzmcevoy@hotmail.com>=0ATo: NS NATURE <natur=
ens@chebucto.ns.ca> =0ASent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:18:42 PM=0ASubject: =
RE: [NatureNS] Barn Swallows and Chimney Swifts=0A =0A=0A=0A =0AHi Rob and =
All,=A0=0A=A0 =A0 I stand to be corrected here, but my understanding is tha=
t it was not only the old barns that were required but that farming; partic=
ularly the keeping of livestock; was also essential. The mud and manure wer=
e used to build the nests and the insects the animals attracted were a main=
food source. =A0We lost our local Barn Swallows shortly after the owners o=
f the barns the swallows used for nests, which are still here BTW, got rid =
of the last of their cows. All the best.=0A=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Fritz McEvoy=0A=A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=
Sunrise Valley, CB (near Dingwall)=0A=A0 =A0 =A0=0A=0A=0A=0A______________=
__________________=0ADate: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:25:49 -0700=0AFrom: rrtwoods=
@yahoo.com=0ASubject: [NatureNS] Barn Swallows and Chimney Swifts=0ATo: nat=
urens@chebucto.ns.ca=0A=0A=0ANot to take away from the rapid decline that t=
hese species and others are experiencing, I have wondered did these two spe=
cies first benefit from mankind as the are both strongly associated with ma=
n made objects. Were their numbers from the peaks 30-40 years ago actually =
inflated due to man made structures being available. Prior to the building =
of the large wooden barns across north america what would have been the pop=
ulation of Barn Swallows. Suitable nesting habitat would have been more lim=
ited and under much more competition or predation. =0A=A0=0ATodays modern b=
arns are made of metal which are almost impossible to attach nest to and ar=
e much more BIO secure than the wooden barns of our forefathers.=A0=A0The o=
ld brick chimneys that=A0once abandoned, provided excellent habitat for the=
swifts are now falling in disrepair or are destroyed in site clean up. Bot=
h of these structures did not exist before the industrial age and are becom=
ing limited now thus maybe populations of these species are actually return=
ing to more normal levels.=0A=A0=0AOwner of a wooden barn with 6 barn swall=
ow nests=0A=A0=0ARob Woods=0AGeorgefield NS
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"yiv9281720309yui_3_7_2_36_1373584705320_76">That would make sense Fritz. W=
e did not have barn swallows until a year or two after we started raising a=
lpacas. Despite the barn being of 100 year old construction.</span></div><d=
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ont size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</=
span></b> Fritz McEvoy <fritzmcevoy@hotmail.com><br> <b><span style=
=3D"font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> NS NATURE <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=
> <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, J=
uly 11, 2013 3:18:42 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Subject:</=
span></b> RE: [NatureNS] Barn Swallows and Chimney Swifts<br> </font> </div=
> <div class=3D"yiv9281720309y_msg_container"><br><div id=3D"yiv9281720309"=
>=0A=0A<style><!--=0A#yiv9281720309 .yiv9281720309hmmessage P=0A{=0Amargin=
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-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;}=0A--></style>=0A<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi R=
ob and All, <div> I stand to be corrected here, but my un=
derstanding is that it was not only the old barns that were required but th=
at farming; particularly the keeping of livestock; was also essential. The =
mud and manure were used to build the nests and the insects