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That would make sense Fritz. We did not have barn swallows until a year or =
two after we started raising alpacas. Despite the barn being of 100 year ol=
d construction.=0A=0ARob=0A=0A=0A=A0=0ATo free oneself of knowledge is to d=
ie, and thus one lives. - Krishnamurti=0A=0A=0A____________________________=
____=0A From: Fritz McEvoy <fritzmcevoy@hotmail.com>=0ATo: NS NATURE <natur=
ens@chebucto.ns.ca> =0ASent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:18:42 PM=0ASubject: =
RE: [NatureNS] Barn Swallows and Chimney Swifts=0A =0A=0A=0A =0AHi Rob and =
All,=A0=0A=A0 =A0 I stand to be corrected here, but my understanding is tha=
t it was not only the old barns that were required but that farming; partic=
ularly the keeping of livestock; was also essential. The mud and manure wer=
e used to build the nests and the insects the animals attracted were a main=
food source. =A0We lost our local Barn Swallows shortly after the owners o=
f the barns the swallows used for nests, which are still here BTW, got rid =
of the last of their cows. All the best.=0A=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Fritz McEvoy=0A=A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=
Sunrise Valley, CB (near Dingwall)=0A=A0 =A0 =A0=0A=0A=0A=0A______________=
__________________=0ADate: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:25:49 -0700=0AFrom: rrtwoods=
@yahoo.com=0ASubject: [NatureNS] Barn Swallows and Chimney Swifts=0ATo: nat=
urens@chebucto.ns.ca=0A=0A=0ANot to take away from the rapid decline that t=
hese species and others are experiencing, I have wondered did these two spe=
cies first benefit from mankind as the are both strongly associated with ma=
n made objects. Were their numbers from the peaks 30-40 years ago actually =
inflated due to man made structures being available. Prior to the building =
of the large wooden barns across north america what would have been the pop=
ulation of Barn Swallows. Suitable nesting habitat would have been more lim=
ited and under much more competition or predation. =0A=A0=0ATodays modern b=
arns are made of metal which are almost impossible to attach nest to and ar=
e much more BIO secure than the wooden barns of our forefathers.=A0=A0The o=
ld brick chimneys that=A0once abandoned, provided excellent habitat for the=
swifts are now falling in disrepair or are destroyed in site clean up. Bot=
h of these structures did not exist before the industrial age and are becom=
ing limited now thus maybe populations of these species are actually return=
ing to more normal levels.=0A=A0=0AOwner of a wooden barn with 6 barn swall=
ow nests=0A=A0=0ARob Woods=0AGeorgefield NS
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mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>That would=
make sense Fritz. We did not have barn swallows until a year or two after =
we started raising alpacas. Despite the barn being of 100 year old construc=
tion.</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-=
family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: tran=
sparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"color: r=
gb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', t=
imes, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Rob<=
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: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparen=
t; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div>=
</div><div> </div><div>To free oneself of knowledge is to die, and thu=
s one lives. - Krishnamurti<br></div> <div style=3D"font-family: 'times ne=
w roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-f=
amily: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div=
dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <b><span st=
yle=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Fritz McEvoy <fritzmcevoy@hot=
mail.com><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> NS NA=
TURE <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bo=
ld;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:18:42 PM<br> <b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [NatureNS] Barn Swallows an=
d Chimney Swifts<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br><div=
id=3D"yiv0965796221">=0A=0A<style><!--=0A#yiv0965796221 .yiv0965796221hmme=
ssage P=0A{=0Amargin:0px;padding:0px;}=0A#yiv0965796221 body.yiv0965796221h=
mmessage=0A{=0Afont-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;}=0A--></style>=0A<div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Hi Rob and All, <div> I stand to be correc=
ted here, but my understanding is that it was not only the old barns that w=
ere required but that farming; particularly the keeping of livestock; was a=
lso essential. The mud and manure were used to build the nests and the inse=
cts the animals attracted were a main food source. We lost our local =
Barn Swallows shortly after the owners of the barns the swallows used for n=
ests, which are still here BTW, got rid of the last of their cows. All the =
best.</div><div> &nb=
sp; &=
nbsp; Fritz McEvoy</div><div>  =
; &nb=
sp; Sunrise Valley, CB (near Dingwall)</div><di=
v> </div><div><br><div><hr
id=3D"yiv0965796221stopSpelling">Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:25:49 -0700<br>=
From: rrtwoods@yahoo.com<br>Subject: [NatureNS] Barn Swallows and Chimney S=
wifts<