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be massive and targeted. Very frustrating for all involved, but it&amp;#39;s no=
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Mr Hans Tomm,
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  My name is Darrell Owen Abolit, use it. I do hunt and kill and even 
trap animals. (The Horror) I caught a beaver today and proud of it, my 
father helped skin it. A family tradition!=C2=A0I have caught and killed 
many dogs that are let loose to roam=C2=A0to=C2=A0injure/kill at will and w=
ell 
as cats and do not feel one bit sorry for them or their owners. I have 
gave dead dogs back to their owners with the=C2=A0education that they are 
the ones that killed them, not me. I know the problem all too well 
(thank you very much) and also know the solution. 
  =C2=A0
  I repeat... it should be law that all pets should be contained, this 
would save half the problem. When HRM wanted to=C2=A0contain=C2=A0cats it=
=C2=A0was 
ridiculed into giving up the process. 
  =C2=A0
  Of course humans are the cause of pets at large=C2=A0but we are also the 
solution,=C2=A0as cruel as some over sensitive people=C2=A0think it 
is.=C2=A0All=C2=A0pets at large must be caught and killed and the owners 
charged for this service, period.=C2=A0If Ian or Hans=C2=A0thinks 
otherwise=C2=A0they can pay to feed and shelter thousands of cats and dogs.=
 
I do not want my tax dollars doing their will. 
  =C2=A0
  Get over yourselves. 
  =C2=A0
  Darrell Abolit
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On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 12:25:52 -0300, Hans Toom  wrote:

        All,
  =C2=A0
  I have been on this forum for 14 years and have endured the anti-cat 
and anti-dog manias in silence. They occur from time to time fostered 
by insensitive and ignorant people who have no understanding of the 
problems. I've also awaited an intelligent response to this issue and 
it finally came from Ian Woodman. Thank you, Ian. 
  =C2=A0
  The article in discussion is titled, "Quantifying Human-related 
Mortality of Birds in Canada". Place the emphasis on, "Human-related". 
Like so many things we witness on media, facts are taken out of context 
to fit an agenda. This is clearly the case with Mr. "All cats found in 
the wild or loose should be killed". I expect Mr. "All cats found in 
the wild or loose should be killed" also means we should be gunning 
down loose dogs. 
  =C2=A0
  Feral cats have a life expectancy estimated at 3-4 years whereas an 
indoor cat can live a long and happy life for up to 20 years. Clearly 
if education of cat owners can=C2=A0show success=C2=A0then house cats will 
cease to be a major problem. Feral cats will die off naturally in time 
if their numbers are not replenished and they are captured and 
neutered. The problem is replenishment of the feral cat population by 
irresponsible people aka monsters. These are students who have cats 
as=C2=A0pets during a semester because they are so cute but when they leave=
 
for home during the break or at the conclusion of their studies the cat 
is redundant so it gets dumped in a field or left to die slowly in an 
abandoned apartment. The home owner discovers to her horror that cats 
scratch furniture so out it goes into a local wood to fend for itself. 
The couple that wants to go on a holiday in their motorhome can't find 
a home for their cats so out=C2=A0go the cats to try=C2=A0and survive as fe=
ral 
cats.=C2=A0This new supply of abandoned cats comes from numerous sources 
and continues to replenish the population of feral cats. It is probable 
that more birds are killed naturally by avian predators such as raptors 
and corvids, snakes, lizards and squirrels, especially during nesting 
time when entire broods are wiped out. The mass die offs of birds 
during migration should also be quantified and compared to 
human-related mortality of birds to put things into a balanced 
perspective. Unfortunately, a balanced perspective will compromise the 
agenda. Humans are the problem and have always been the problem, not 
cats. 
  =C2=A0
  I have an empathy and respect for all living things including cats. 
Indeed I have three cats, all rescued as kittens(see monsters above). 
They don't go out and never want to go out. It's a myth that cats need 
to roam.=C2=A0
  =C2=A0
  Please provide humane solutions to the cat problem not=C2=A0suggesting 
a=C2=A0genocide=C2=A0of cats like during the Black Death even though the ca=
ts 
were innocent of spreading the plague. 
  =C2=A0
  =C2=A0
  Hans
  
___________________________________________________________________________=
_____________________________
Hans Toom
Portuguese Cove, Nova Scotia, Canada
http://www.hanstoom.com/

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p>Mr
Hans Tomm,</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>My name is Darrell Owen Abolit, use it. I do hunt and kill and even trap
animals. (The Horror) I caught a beaver today and proud of it, my father he=
lped
skin it. A family tradition!=C2=A0I have caught and killed many dogs that a=
re let
loose to roam=C2=A0to=C2=A0injure/kill at will and well as cats and do not =
feel one bit
sorry for them or their owners. I have gave dead dogs back to their owners =
with
the=C2=A0education that they are the ones that killed them, not me. I know =
the
problem all too well (thank you very much) and also know the solution.</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>I repeat... it should be law that all pets should be contained, this wou=
ld
save half the problem. When HRM wanted to=C2=A0contain=C2=A0cats it=C2=A0wa=
s ridiculed into
giving up the process.</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>Of course humans are the cause of pets at large=C2=A0but we are also the
solution,=C2=A0as cruel as some over sensitive people=C2=A0think it is.=C2=
=A0All=C2=A0pets at
large must be caught and killed and the owners charged for this service,
period.=C2=A0If Ian or Hans=C2=A0thinks otherwise=C2=A0they can pay to feed=
 and shelter
thousands of cats and dogs. I do not want my tax dollars doing their will.<=
/p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>Get over yourselves.</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>Darrell Abolit</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
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>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>=C2=A0<br><br>On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 12:25:52 -0300, Hans Toom
&lt;htoom@hfx.eastlink.ca&gt; wrote:<br></p>
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size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">All,</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I have been on this forum for 14 years=
 and have
endured the anti-cat and anti-dog manias in silence. They occur from time t=
o
time fostered by insensitive and ignorant people who have no understanding =
of
the problems. I've also awaited an intelligent response to this issue and i=
t
finally came from Ian Woodman. Thank you, Ian.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Arial">The article in discussion is tit=
led,
"Quantifying Human-related Mortality of Birds in Canada". Place the emphasi=
s on,
"<strong>Human-related</strong>". Like so many things we witness on media, =
facts
are taken out of context to fit an agenda. This is clearly the case with Mr=
. 
"All cats found in the wild or loose should be killed". I expect Mr. "All c=
ats
found in the wild or loose should be killed" also means we should be gunnin=
g
down loose dogs.</font></font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Arial"></font></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Arial">Feral cats have a life expectanc=
y
estimated at 3-4 years whereas an indoor cat can live a long and happy life=
 for
up to 20 years. Clearly if education of cat owners can=C2=A0show success=C2=
=A0then house
cats will cease to be a major problem. Feral cats will die off naturally in=
 time
if their numbers are not replenished and they are captured and neutered. Th=
e
problem is replenishment of the feral cat population by irresponsible peopl=
e aka
monsters. These are students who have cats as=C2=A0pets during a semester b=
ecause
they are so cute but when they leave for home during the break or at the
conclusion of their studies the cat is redundant so it gets dumped in a fie=
ld or
left to die slowly in an abandoned apartment. The home owner discovers to h=
er
horror that cats scratch furniture so out it goes into a local wood to fend=
 for
itself. The couple that wants to go on a holiday in their motorhome can't f=
ind a
home for their cats so out=C2=A0go the cats to try=C2=A0and survive as fera=
l cats.=C2=A0This
new supply of abandoned cats comes from numerous sources and continues to
replenish the population of feral cats. It is probable that more birds are
killed naturally by avian predators such as raptors and corvids, snakes, li=
zards
and squirrels, especially during nesting time when entire broods are wiped =
out. 
The mass die offs of birds during migration should also be quantified and
compared to human-related mortality of birds to put things into a balanced
perspective. Unfortunately, a balanced perspective will compromise the agen=
da. 
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Humans are the problem and have always been=
 the
problem, not cats.</font></font></font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I have an empathy and respect for all =
living
things including cats. Indeed I have three cats, all rescued as kittens(see
monsters above). They don't go out and never want to go out. It's a myth th=
at
cats need to roam.=C2=A0</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Arial">Please provide humane solutions =
to the
cat problem not=C2=A0suggesting a=C2=A0genocide=C2=A0of cats like during th=
e Black Death
even though the cats were innocent of spreading the plague.</font></font></=
div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font><font size=3D"2"><font
face=3D"Arial"></font></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Arial"></font></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Arial">Hans</font><font
size=3D"1"></font></font></div>
<p><font size=3D"2"
face=3D"Arial">____________________________________________________________=
____________________________________________<br>Hans
Toom<br>Portuguese Cove, Nova Scotia, Canada<br><a
href=3D"http://www.hanstoom.com/"
target=3D"">http://www.hanstoom.com/</a><br></font></p></div></blockquote>
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