[NatureNS] does eating soap harm Deer Mice

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I have eaten food-grade paraffin on many occasions, It's the shiny glaze on=
 a recipe for peanut butter balls. As noted, it's not digestible and passes=
 through the digestive system with no ill effect.


On Nov 11, 2013, at 8:32 PM, David & Alison Webster wrote:

Hi Nancy,                        Nov 11, 2013
  Homemade cake soap could be quite alkaline and caustic so it would be que=
stionable food for mice or men (includes women).

  Retail cake soap is I think nearly neutral or at least neutral enough to =
not remove skin. Cake soap is a sodium or potassium  salt of a long chain f=
atty acid (one arm of three of a trigliceride if I correctly recall) and sh=
ould do in a pinch. There might be some glycerine (harmless). The perfumes =
etc that get added for consumer appeal are likely harmless. Any animal that=
 can eat fat should do ok on soap and have clean teeth to boot.

    Paraffin was is harmless but I doubt that it is digestable.
Yt, DW, Kentville
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To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>>
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 6:39 AM
Subject: [NatureNS] does eating soap harm Deer Mice


A friend, who used to inspect old houses for potential buyers, said he alwa=
ys knew there were Deer Mice around b/c he would find chewed up soap bars a=
nd candles. Like Deer Mice, my Labrador also eats soap (and balls of wool a=
nd=85) due to the tallow or lanolin present. But when he eats these items t=
hey are soon thrown up- rejected as undigestible.

I can see how a candle might go down OK but do not understand how Deer Mice=
 survive after eating soap? Isn't it as impossible for them to digest as it=
 is for the Lab? Or do they just hoard it and never actually eat it?

Nancy


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I have eaten food-grade paraffin on many occasions, It's the shiny glaze on=
 a recipe for peanut butter balls. As noted, it's not digestible and passes=
 through the digestive system with no ill effect.
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
<div>
<div>On Nov 11, 2013, at 8:32 PM, David &amp; Alison Webster wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>Hi Nancy, &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;Nov 11, 2013<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;Homemade cake soap could be quite alkaline and caustic so it wo=
uld be questionable food for mice or men (includes women).<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;Retail cake soap is I think nearly neutral or at least neutral =
enough to not remove skin. Cake soap is a sodium or potassium &nbsp;salt of=
 a long chain fatty acid (one arm of three of a trigliceride if I correctly=
 recall) and should do in a pinch. There might
 be some glycerine (harmless). The perfumes etc that get added for consumer=
 appeal are likely harmless. Any animal that can eat fat should do ok on so=
ap and have clean teeth to boot.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Paraffin was is harmless but I doubt that it is dig=
estable.<br>
Yt, DW, Kentville<br>
----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;nancy dowd&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:nancypdowd@gmail.com">nancypdowd@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<=
/a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 6:39 AM<br>
Subject: [NatureNS] does eating soap harm Deer Mice<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">A friend, who used to inspect old houses for pote=
ntial buyers, said he always knew there were Deer Mice around b/c he would =
find chewed up soap bars and candles. Like Deer Mice, my Labrador also eats=
 soap (and balls of wool and=85) due
 to the tallow or lanolin present. But when he eats these items they are so=
on thrown up- rejected as undigestible.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">I can see how a candle might go down OK but do no=
t understand how Deer Mice survive after eating soap? Isn't it as impossibl=
e for them to digest as it is for the Lab? Or do they just hoard it and nev=
er actually eat it?&l