[NatureNS] Leave those old snags up!

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From: Mary Macaulay <marymacaulay@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 18:40:15 -0500
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Burning anything is putting carbon back in the atmosphere. Far better to sup=
er insulate our homes and burn little to nothing.

Mary Macaulay, P.Eng.


> On Dec 4, 2013, at 5:59 PM, "David & Alison Webster" <dwebster@glinx.com> w=
rote:
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> Hi All,                                Dec 4, 2013
>     I sense some politically correct ideas floating to the surface in thes=
e recent e-mails so I wish to interject some biologically correct ideas.
> =20
>     Snags sometimes can be good centers of biodiversity; no question. They=
 sometimes can be, after bark is shed, quite barren of activity including fu=
ngal growth, until they fall and gain earth contact.
> =20
>     Pileated, although they sometimes will work a dead snag or a fallen ro=
tten birch they mostly feed on ants in live softwood trees (Hemlock, Fir, Sp=
ruce) and something (probably ants) near the tops of Poplar. Usually when I p=
rune branches from Hardwood trees in the yard I leave stubs 2-8' long. Downy=
 & Hairy feed on these as they age but I have yet to see a Pileated there. B=
ut just a few feet away I usually see a Pileated every year or so on the liv=
e Crack-Willow (arthropods in bark crevices ?) and when the Five-fingered Iv=
y fruits, feeding upside down on these vines which have climbed a Black Cher=
ry. Pileated also like Dogwood fruit and I watched one strip a shrub, upside=
 down again, while I ate lunch.
> =20
>     And one of the best ways to provide growth & feeding opportunities in l=
ive, dying and dead trees into the future is to burn more wood and less petr=
ochemical fuels. Except for the carbon cost of cutting and hauling wood, the=
 burning of wood is carbon neutral, in spite of short-sighted foolishness to=
 the contrary. On the other hand all of the carbon in petrochemicals is new t=
o the atmosphere and by the time they arrive in your dooryard  already have a=
 large carbon burden; exploration, extraction & transportation.
> =20
>     The wood should of course be cut selectively, with an eye to giving he=
althy long-lived trees adequate room and encouraging a wide diversity of tre=
e and shrub species. But burning wood cut in any way is a step in the right d=
irection.
> =20
> Yt DW
> "To save the forest you must burn trees" DW 2013
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nancy P Dowd
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 5:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Leave those old snags up!
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> And when all else fails leave as much of the trunk and limbs as possible  =
  on the forest floor to benefit the birds, plants etc. This is what I had t=
hem do with my old dying maple that was in the path of the excavator at the c=
amp.=20
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> Nancy
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 4, 2013, at 3:44 PM, Rick Ballard <ideaphore@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> A better link than the gigantic google url is : http://assets.panda.org/d=
ownloads/deadwoodwithnotes.pdf
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>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Rick Ballard <ideaphore@gmail.com> wrote=
:
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>>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:16 PM, James W. Wolford <jimwolford@eastlink.c=
a> wrote:
>>>> "c
>>>> heck out the 16-page paper on Dead Wood that was done several years ago=
 by the World Wildlife Fund"
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>>> Eurocentric, but an interesting read.
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>>> Dead Wood  - Living Forests pdf
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>>> Rick Ballard=20
>>> Dartmouth,Nova Scotia, Canada
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>> Rick Ballard=20
>> Dartmouth,Nova Scotia, Canada
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Burning anything is putting carbon back in the atmosphere. Far better to super insulate our homes and burn little to nothing.<br><br>Mary Macaulay, P.Eng.<div><br></div></div><div><br>On Dec 4, 2013, at 5:59 PM, "David &amp; Alison Webster" &lt;dwebster@glinx.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>

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<div>Hi All,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Dec 4, 2013</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I sense some politically correct ideas floating to the 
surface in these recent e-mails so I wish to interject some biologically correct 
ideas.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Snags sometimes can be good centers of biodiversity; no 
question. They sometimes can be, after bark is shed, quite barren of activity 
including&nbsp;fungal growth, until they fall and gain earth contact. </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Pileated, although they sometimes will work a dead snag 
or a fallen rotten birch they mostly feed on ants in live softwood trees 
(Hemlock, Fir, Spruce) and something (probably ants)&nbsp;near&nbsp;the tops of 
Poplar. Usually when I&nbsp;prune branches from&nbsp;Hardwood trees in the yard 
I leave stubs&nbsp;2-8' long. Downy &amp; Hairy feed on these as they age but I 
have yet to see a Pileated there. But just a few feet away I usually see a 
Pileated every year or so on the live Crack-Willow (arthropods in bark crevices 
?) and when the Five-fingered Iv