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I just found out that one of the most vocal anti-fracking voices around =
here drives a great big S.U.V. Some folks should =E2=80=9Cput their =
money where their mouths are=E2=80=9D if they want respect.
Jane
From: David & Alison Webster=20
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:41 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Leave those old snags up!
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Paul Ruggles=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Leave those old snags up!
Hi Yt, DW
The need to address global warming transcends our usual ideas about =
environmental protection. To paraphrase Charles Dickens:=20
It's not about the environment.=20
It's all about the environment.
What it's not about is individual acts of good conscience.
The problem is our addiction to the abundant and cheap energy derived =
from the burning of fossil fuels. When 250 million years' worth of =
stored carbon is released into the atmosphere during just 150 years, =
there are consequences. The climate heats up. If we don't do something =
about it, a radical change to many of the vital ecosystems that sustain =
our civilization is inevitable.=20
Hi Paul & All, Dec 5, 2013
I agree mostly with the above.
=20
The fundamental reason for the failure to act on global warming is the =
ruthless exercise of political power by the fossil-fuel lobby.
No, not at all. The fossil fuel industry simply responds to market =
demand. Remember Pogo "I have seen the enemy and he is us". As I =
observed in a broader context (1/27/2006) "the primary destructive =
forces are over consumption by humans who have come to regard sybaritic =
hedonism as bare necessities. " The rich nations are quite prepared to =
see the poor nations cut back on their already tiny carbon emissions but =
balk reducing their own by more than token amounts. The pollticians can =
not act until a majority of the electorate are prepared to accept a more =
frugal lifestyle and that can happen only if individuals step up to the =
plate and walk the talk. =20
=20
=20
We have to create a political base to counteract the immense power of =
the fossil fuel lobby. It's not enough to cut back on personal energy =
use. It may make one feel good, but it won't solve the problem.
Little drops of water, little grains of sand, make the mighty =
ocean and the pleasant land (anon). If enough people cut back on =
personal energy use we just might dodge the bullet. If too few people do =
then we are doomed and deserve it.
And it is therefore vital that people make decisions based on real =
understanding of the natural world as opposed to fund-raising propaganda =
spouted by various wildlife/naturalist organizations.
Yt, DW, Kentville
Paul.
On 2013-12-04, at 9:10 PM, David & Alison Webster wrote:
Hi Mary, Dec 4, 2013
Shooting from the hip doesn't solve difficult problems which in =
large measure have been generated by simplistic thinking. Or by an =
absence of thought.
If you cut selectively you give the remaining trees an =
opportunity to fix carbon more efficiently. If you leave them to die and =
rot then all of the carbon of those dead trees will eventually be =
released as gaseous CO2. The carbon will of course cycle through =
myxomycetes, beetles, fungi, bacteria ... but it all will eventually =
become released as CO2.=20
From any wood that you might have burned the eventual carbon =
release by biological action will equal that released from combustion. =
Of course if you don't burn wood completely, which is often the case if =
you don't rake coals, then the carbon released by burning will be =
somewhat less than biological release due to a residue of charcoal which =
is not readily used by organisms and is actually a good way to fix =
carbon permanently.=20
=20
Even if the firewood is clearcut, provided no more than 10% of a =
watershed is cut in any decade, you are still ahead of the game in all =
respects.=20
As for burning little or nothing, try turning off your power and =
heat sources for say the next 6 months; walk to work wearing carbon free =
clothes (e.g. animal hides) and of course eat only raw food obtained =
within walking distance of home. =20
Typically when roads, building lots, commercial outlets (for =
sale of insulation eg.) and power lines are constructed/maintained, the =
wood is just bulldozed to one side, pushed into huge piles and burned or =
cut and piled to rot and worst of all there is no opportunity for =
regrowth. So in those cases not only does all of the wood go up in smoke =
(by fire or decay) but the habitat for future carbon capture is =
destroyed or greatly diminished
Now one does not need to fly over Truro at low altitude to get =
some appreciation of the carbon fixing potential that is obliterated by =
power lines. I expect Google Earth will now be just a good. It is huge.
So don't shoot the messenger.Think about the alternatives and =
especially with some correct biology in play.=20
Yt, DW
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Mary Macaulay=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Leave those old snags up!
Burning anything is putting carbon back in the atmosphere. Far =
better to super insulate our homes and burn little to nothing.
Mary Macaulay, P.Eng.=20
On Dec 4, 2013, at 5:59 PM, "David & Alison Webster" =
<dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:
Hi All, Dec 4, 2013
I sense some politically correct ideas floating to the =
surface in these recent e-mails so I wish to interject some biologically =
correct ideas.
Snags sometimes can be good centers of biodiversity; no =
question. They sometimes can be, after bark is shed, quite barren of =
activity including fungal growth, until they fall and gain earth =
contact.=20
Pileated, although they sometimes will work a dead snag or a =
fallen rotten birch they mostly feed on ants in live softwood trees =
(Hemlock, Fir, Spruce) and something (probably ants) near the tops of =
Poplar. Usually when I prune branches from Hardwood trees in the yard I =
leave stubs 2-8' long. Downy & Hairy feed on these as they age but I =
have yet to see a Pileated there. But just a few feet away I usually see =
a Pileated every year or so on the live Crack-Willow (arthropods in bark =
crevices ?) and when the Five-fingered Ivy fruits, feeding upside down =
on these vines which have climbed a Black Cherry. Pileated also like =
Dogwood fruit and I watched one strip a shrub, upside down again, while =
I ate lunch.=20
And one of the best ways to provide growth & feeding =
opportunities in live, dying and dead trees into the future is to burn =
more wood and less petrochemical fuels. Except for the carbon cost of =
cutting and hauling wood, the burning of wood is carbon neutral, in =
spite of short-sighted foolishness to the contrary. On the other hand =
all of the carbon in petrochemicals is new to the atmosphere and by the =
time they arrive in your dooryard already have a large carbon burden; =
exploration, extraction & transportation.
The wood should of course be cut selectively, with an eye to =
giving healthy long-lived trees adequate room and encouraging a wide =
diversity of tree and shrub species. But burning wood cut in any way is =
a step in the right direction.=20
Yt DW
"To save the forest you must burn trees" DW 2013
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Nancy P Dowd=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Leave those old snags up!
And when all else fails leave as much of the trunk and limbs =
as possible on the forest floor to benefit the birds, plants etc. This =
is what I had them do with my old dying maple that was in the path of =
the excavator at the camp.=20
Nancy
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 4, 2013, at 3:44 PM, Rick Ballard <ideaphore@gmail.com> =
wrote:
A better link than the gigantic google url is : =
http://assets.panda.org/downloads/deadwoodwithnotes.pdf
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Rick Ballard =
<ideaphore@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:16 PM, James W. Wolford =
<jimwolford@eastlink.ca> wrote:
"c
heck out the 16-page paper on Dead Wood that was done =
several years ago by the World Wildlife Fund"
Eurocentric, but an interesting read.
Dead Wood - Living Forests pdf
--=20
Rick Ballard=20
Dartmouth,Nova Scotia, Canada=20
--=20
Rick Ballard=20
Dartmouth,Nova Scotia, Canada=20
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22px"> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 18px helvetica; MARGIN: 0px">The problem is our =
addiction to=20
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fuels. =20
When 250 million years' worth of stored carbon is released into the =
atmosphere=20
during just 150 years, there are consequences. The climate heats up. =
If we=20
don't do something about it, a radical change to many of the vital =
ecosystems=20
that sustain our civilization is inevitable. </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 18px helvetica; MARGIN: 0px"> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 18px helvetica; MARGIN: 0px"><FONT size=3D3 =
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&=20
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Dec 5, 2013</FONT></DIV>
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face=3DArial> No, not at all. The fossil fuel =
industry simply=20
responds to market demand. Remember Pogo "I have seen the enemy and he =
is us".=20
As I observed in a broader context (1/27/2006) "the primary =
destructive forces=20
are over consumption by humans who have come to regard sybaritic =
hedonism as=20
bare necessities. " The rich nations are quite prepared to see the =
poor=20
nations cut back on their already tiny carbon emissions but balk =
reducing=20
their own by more than token amounts. The pollticians can not act =
until a=20
majority of the electorate are prepared to accept a more frugal =
lifestyle and=20
that can happen only if individuals step up to the plate and walk the=20
talk. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 18px helvetica; MARGIN: 0px"><FONT size=3D3=20
face=3DArial> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 18px helvetica; MARGIN: 0px"><FONT size=3D3=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 18px helvetica; MARGIN: 0px"><FONT size=3D3=20
face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 18px helvetica; MARGIN: 0px">We have to create a =
political=20
base to counteract the immense power of the fossil fuel lobby. =
It's not=20
enough to cut back on personal energy use. It may make one feel good, =
but it=20
won't solve the problem.</DIV><FONT size=3D3 =
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Little drops of=20
water, little grains of sand, make the mighty ocean and the pleasant =
land=20
(anon). If enough people cut back on personal energy use we just might =
dodge=20
the bullet. If too few people do then we are doomed and deserve=20
it.</FONT></DIV>
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22px"><FONT size=3D3=20
face=3DArial> And it is therefore vital that people =
make=20
decisions based on real understanding of the natural world as opposed =
to=20
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organizations.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 18px helvetica; MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 18px helvetica; MARGIN: 0px">Paul.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>On 2013-12-04, at 9:10 PM, David & Alison Webster =
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<DIV>Hi=20
=
Mary, &n=
bsp; &nb=
sp; =20
Dec 4, 2013</DIV>
<DIV> Shooting from the hip doesn't solve =
difficult=20
problems which in large measure have been generated by simplistic =
thinking.=20
Or by an absence of thought.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> If you cut selectively you give the =
remaining trees=20
an opportunity to fix carbon more efficiently. If you leave them to =
die and=20
rot then all of the carbon of those dead trees will eventually be =
released=20
as gaseous CO2. The carbon will of course cycle through myxomycetes, =
beetles, fungi, bacteria ... but it all will eventually become =
released as=20
CO2. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> From any wood that you might have burned the =
eventual carbon release by biological action will equal that =
released from=20
combustion. Of course if you don't burn wood completely, which is =
often the=20
case if you don't rake coals, then the carbon released by burning =
will be=20
somewhat less than biological release due to a residue of charcoal =
which is=20
not readily used by organisms and is actually a good way to fix =
carbon=20
permanently. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> Even if the firewood is clearcut, provided =
no more=20
than 10% of a watershed is cut in any decade, you are still ahead of =
the=20
game in all respects. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> As for burning little or nothing, try =
turning off=20
your power and heat sources for say the next 6 months; walk to work =
wearing=20
carbon free clothes (e.g. animal hides) and of course eat only raw =
food=20
obtained within walking distance of home. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> Typically when roads, building lots, =
commercial=20
outlets (for sale of insulation eg.) and power lines are=20
constructed/maintained, the wood is just bulldozed to one side, =
pushed into=20
huge piles and burned or cut and piled to rot and worst of all there =
is no=20
opportunity for regrowth. So in those cases not only does all of the =
wood go=20
up in smoke (by fire or decay) but the habitat for future carbon =
capture is=20
destroyed or greatly diminished</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> Now one does not need to fly over Truro at =
low=20
altitude to get some appreciation of the carbon fixing potential =
that is=20
obliterated by power lines. I expect Google Earth will now be just a =
good.=20
It is huge.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> So don't shoot the messenger.Think about the =
alternatives and especially with some correct biology in play. =
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> Yt, DW</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<A title=3Dmarymacaulay@hotmail.com=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
=
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December =
04, 2013=20
7:40 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] =
Leave those=20
old snags up!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Burning anything is putting carbon back in the atmosphere. =
Far better=20
to super insulate our homes and burn little to =
nothing.<BR><BR>Mary=20
Macaulay, P.Eng.=20
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Dec 4, 2013, at 5:59 PM, "David & Alison Webster" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com">dwebster@glinx.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<DIV>
<META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.23536">
<STYLE></STYLE>
<DIV>Hi=20
=
All, &nb=
sp; &nbs=
p; =20
Dec 4, 2013</DIV>
<DIV> I sense some politically correct ideas =
floating=20
to the surface in these recent e-mails so I wish to interject =
some=20
biologically correct ideas.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> Snags sometimes can be good centers of=20
biodiversity; no question. They sometimes can be, after bark is =
shed,=20
quite barren of activity including fungal growth, until they =
fall and=20
gain earth contact. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> Pileated, although they sometimes will =
work a=20
dead snag or a fallen rotten birch they mostly feed on ants in =
live=20
softwood trees (Hemlock, Fir, Spruce) and something (probably =
ants) near=20
the tops of Poplar. Usually when I prune branches from Hardwood =
trees in=20
the yard I leave stubs 2-8' long. Downy & Hairy feed on =
these as=20
they age but I have yet to see a Pileated there. But just a few =
feet=20
away I usually see a Pileated every year or so on the live =
Crack-Willow=20
(arthropods in bark crevices ?) and when the Five-fingered Ivy =
fruits,=20
feeding upside down on these vines which have climbed a Black =
Cherry.=20
Pileated also like Dogwood fruit and I watched one strip a =
shrub, upside=20
down again, while I ate lunch. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> And one of the best ways to provide =
growth &=20
feeding opportunities in live, dying and dead trees into the =
future is=20
to burn more wood and less petrochemical fuels. Except for the =
carbon=20
cost of cutting and hauling wood, the burning of wood is carbon =
neutral,=20
in spite of short-sighted foolishness to the contrary. On the =
other hand=20
all of the carbon in petrochemicals is new to the atmosphere and =
by the=20
time they arrive in your dooryard already have a large =
carbon=20
burden; exploration, extraction & transportation.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> The wood should of course be cut =
selectively,=20
with an eye to giving healthy long-lived trees adequate room and =
encouraging a wide diversity of tree and shrub species. But =
burning wood=20
cut in any way is a step in the right direction. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Yt DW</DIV>
<DIV>"To save the forest you must burn trees" DW 2013</DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dnancypdowd@gmail.com =
href=3D"mailto:nancypdowd@gmail.com">Nancy=20
P Dowd</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
=
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, =
December 04,=20
2013 5:41 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] =
Leave=20
those old snags up!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>And when all else fails leave as much of the trunk and =
limbs as=20
possible on the forest floor to benefit the birds, plants etc. =
This is=20
what I had them do with my old dying maple that was in the =
path of the=20
excavator at the camp. <BR><BR>Nancy<BR>Sent from my =
iPhone</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Dec 4, 2013, at 3:44 PM, Rick Ballard <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:ideaphore@gmail.com">ideaphore@gmail.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
georgia,serif">A better=20
link than the gigantic google url is : <A=20
=
href=3D"http://assets.panda.org/downloads/deadwoodwithnotes.pdf">http://<=
SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14px; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; =
WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; COLOR: rgb(0,102,33); LINE-HEIGHT: =
16px">assets.panda.org/downloads/</SPAN><B=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14px; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; =
WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; COLOR: rgb(0,102,33); LINE-HEIGHT: =
16px">deadwood</B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14px; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; =
WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; COLOR: rgb(0,102,33); LINE-HEIGHT: =
16px">withnotes.pdf</SPAN></A></DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_extra><BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:37 PM, =
Rick Ballard=20
<SPAN dir=3Dltr><<A href=3D"mailto:ideaphore@gmail.com"=20
target=3D_blank>ideaphore@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> =
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<DIV dir=3Dltr>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_extra>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:16 PM, =
James W.=20
Wolford <SPAN dir=3Dltr><<A =
href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca"=20
target=3D_blank>jimwolford@eastlink.ca</A>></SPAN> =
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif; DISPLAY: =
inline">"c</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dim><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: =
arial,sans-serif">heck out=20
the 16-page paper on Dead Wood that was done several =
years ago=20
by the World Wildlife Fund</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
georgia,serif">"</SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_extra> </DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif">Eurocentric, but an =
interesting=20
read.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif; DISPLAY: inline"><A=20
=
href=3D"https://www.google.ca/url?sa=3Dt&rct=3Dj&q=3D&esrc=3D=
s&source=3Dweb&cd=3D1&ved=3D0CDwQFjAA&url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2F=
assets.panda.org%2Fdownloads%2Fdeadwoodwithnotes.pdf&ei=3DgIGfUqbeB4f=
7kQf8z4CgBA&usg=3DAFQjCNEkdhCbWrFiabjGau-grQgRL_OteA&sig2=3DGiswl=
ex0v7nUiemJRgV1Ag&bvm=3Dbv.57155469,d.eW0"=20
target=3D_blank>Dead Wood - Living Forests =
pdf</A></DIV><SPAN=20
class=3DHOEnZb><FONT color=3D#888888><BR><BR clear=3Dall>
<DIV> </DIV>-- <BR><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif">Rick Ballard =
</SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif">Dartmouth,Nova =
Scotia, Canada=20
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif; DISPLAY: =
inline"></DIV></SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
georgia,serif"></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><B=
R=20
clear=3Dall>
<DIV> </DIV>-- <BR><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif">Rick Ballard </SPAN><BR =
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif">Dartmouth,Nova Scotia, =
Canada=20
</SPAN><BR style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
georgia,serif"></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><A></A>
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